Talk:Neither Here nor There: Travels in Europe
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Requested move 21 September 2015
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Not moved. There would have to be a good reason to go against such a widely-followed style guideline as WP:NCCAPS. The point of Wikipedia having a guideline is that we impose our own style, even if if differs from the one used by the author or publisher. EdJohnston (talk) 20:48, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
[talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 22:34, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Jenks24 and Anthony Appleyard: "Neither Here, Nor There: Travels in Europe" is the actual title of the book, capitalisation and punctuation exactly as shown. See the listing at the author's site. Spelling and capitalisation of information found at sites such as Amazon.com or Barnes & Noble are unreliable. Moreover, if you view the cover image provided by Harper Collins to retailers such as Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble, you will see that it is also rendered as "Neither Here Nor There", even though the subttitle is stylised as "travels in europe". After reading WP:NCCAPS, it would appear to be misapplied in this instance. — QuicksilverT @ 00:38, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Capitalisation is a Wikipedia style issue, though. We don't just blindly follow official sources, we use Wikipedia's style guide, in this case WP:NCCAPS, which states "each word in English titles of books, films, and other works takes an initial capital, except for articles ("a", "an", "the"), the word "to" as part of an infinitive, and prepositions and coordinating conjunctions shorter than five letters (e.g., "on", "from", "and", "with"), unless they begin or end a title or subtitle." This ensures consistency across the project and, in fact, the subtitle not being capitalised in official source is a great example of why we should follow our own style guide over the incredibly inconsistent capitalisation of official sources. Jenks24 (talk) 09:08, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Noting just for the record that this is an oppose. Jenks24 (talk) 17:25, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose - "nor" is not special enough to be uppercased. It is still a coordinating conjunction; uppercasing it goes against MOS:CT as well as WP:NCCAPS. --George Ho (talk) 05:51, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.