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Named reverted to neglected and underutilized crop

This is the correct term which is widely used in agricultural discussions while dealing with this group of crop. Please refer to these institutional webpages: Crops for the Future, Bioversity Internatinoal, and this article Diversity of the Neglected and Underutilized Crop Species of Importance in Benin. There are more scientific papers published with neglected and underutilized crops which you can easily search in the Internet. --MKwek (talk) 03:38, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Term used in this section "inter alia". Maybe change to "amongst other things", why are we using Latin language when not necessary on the overview of a subject?

Important Reference Needed

Can someone provide a reference/list of the 30 species mentioned in "95% of the world's food needs are provided for by just 30 species of plants". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mywiki813 (talk • contribs) 03:36, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A reference (J. R., Harlan (1975). Crops and Man. Wisconsin: Crop Sceince Society of America) is added for this statement. MKwek (talk) 08:42, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Potential bias

This article reads like propaganda. Someone more comfortable with the subject should edit it to meet NPOV standards. Ecologygirl (talk) 04:06, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I concur, but lack deep knowledge of subject. It could also stand for a signifigant expansion V. Joe (talk) 17:36, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article is definitely propaganda. For something to be "under" utilized, there is, by logical necessity, a "proper" level of utilization. No such "proper" level is defined. How many acres does a crop need before it is "properly" utilized or "over" utilized rather than "under" utilized. Likewise, to "neglect" something generally means that one is paying less than "proper" or "sufficient" attention to it. This article is all airy-fairy terminology with nothing solid behind it.Dogface (talk) 21:43, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Hist-merged the old page at this target (had previously existed as separate page that was merged into and redirected to the old name, so result is simply changing which page got the merged content. DMacks (talk) 04:12, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neglected and Underutilized Crops → Underutilized crops — The current name, as well as having capitalisation that does not adhere to WP:MOS, is unweildly and is not the ideal name. Underutilized crops or Underutilized species are a couple of my suggestions. There may be others that are suitable. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 07:48, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Support move to ~~Underutilized species~~ Underutilized crops (thanks, Abductive) - ~~a very unmethodical look at reliable sources seems to show that term more used than Underutilized crops.~~ First Light (talk) 16:41, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support move to Underutilized crops. Searching Google Scholar by "Underutilized species" -fish shows that the species referred to most often aren't crops, they're fish. Abductive (reasoning) 19:34, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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List

A list of underutilized crops would be useful. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:03, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed! Where to look for a list? Any suggestions of NPOV sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.109.192 (talk) 04:50, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is no complete or absolute list of neglected and underutilized species (NUS). I have created a section namely "Example of neglected and underutilized species". Those are just a few examples to illustrate the idea of underutilized crops because different countries or region would have their own research priorities on underutilized crops. MKwek (talk) 08:38, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Expert still needed after decade-long neglect

I've now added ecology and economics to the original appeal to agriculture (no takers, apparently, for the last decade).

From a certain economics perspective, there can't conceptually be an underutilized crop, just as there can't conceptually be a $20 bill lying on the sidewalk (if it existed, someone would have surely scooped it up already).

Because the inherent subjectivity of the word "underutilized" is never addressed head on, this page seems to linger in endless purgatory. Additionally, "neglect" itself functions as a finger pointed in no specific direction.

Another possible name of this page is: crops that someone, somewhere nominated as "neglected" who doesn't plan to pick up the hoe himself/herself any time soon. It's an awfully easy label to affix when you're not the one hoeing and growing and harvesting and then failing to sell on the open market.

It's even possible, given these problems, that this shouldn't be an article in the first place, though I would think twice about going in this direction, given the list of conferences that once addressed this topic. — MaxEnt 23:04, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MaxEnt: Howdy hello! I'm a botanist, and I came across the expert requested section. The article certainly does need improvement, but the underlying concepts are real. They do fall into two categories, which this article should better explain. Neglected crops are often widely used but poorly studied, staple African crops such as cassava and yams come to mind. Underutilized crops are generally not widely used, though they might have been in the past, and are also poorly studied. What crops fall into that can be a bit vague though. I think the straight up listing of crops here might be overkill, perhaps it would be better as an actual category that pages get tagged with, and this article merely explains the concept. Its been some years since you've posted this, did you have other points that you thought needed expert attention? CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 03:09, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article translated to Simple English

Hello, I translated the article to Simple English. While simple English has many difficulties of its own (most notably: easy to understand language), the article there now likely has the same problems as this article here. So, I invite any expert to look at the article there as well (at simple:Neglected and underutilized crop). Eptalon (talk) 13:10, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

added update tag

Howdy! Added a few small things here: some orchid tubers that have been described as underutilized, but also, many of the crops listen are now significantly more used today than when this article was created. It would be worth someone who has knowledge in this area to go through and pick out plants that are now much more used and delete them from the lists-if the lists are still necessary. Hydronym89 (talk) 15:08, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]