Talk:NearlyFreeSpeech

A fact from NearlyFreeSpeech appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 1 February 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that NearlyFreeSpeech was considered a "safe haven" for alt-right Twitter alternative Gab?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/February. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/NearlyFreeSpeech.

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Per WP:RS The Register is generally reliable. Significant coverage in the source:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/10/12/uk_gov_requests_removal_of_cull_supporter_names_from_badger_killers_website_hosted_in_us/

The Hill is generally reliable. Significant coverage:

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/351169-alt-right-twitter-rival-might-lose-its-domain

CNET is generally reliable for tech. Significant coverage:

https://www.cnet.com/news/bugmenot-pesters-onward/

Linux Journal is not on WP:RS, but was well known and has 95 hits in articles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=linuxjournal&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1&ns0=1

Significant coverage: https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nearly-free-speech

Less sure about ClickZ, not on WP:RS but it looks OK to me, has 175 hits in articles, and gives significant coverage:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=clickz.com&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1&ns0=1

https://www.clickz.com/host-big-traffic-not-big-media-responsible-for-bugmenot-shutdown/85337/

MacStories is not on WP:RS, but they look like a good independent source to me:

https://www.macstories.net/about/

Significant coverage of details of NSF.net: https://www.macstories.net/tutorials/how-anyone-can-install-fever-in-ten-minutes/

Then there is coverage in 3 books. Not detailed, but significant independent, diverse coverage:

https://books.google.de/books?id=0d0cu9Y_uhEC&pg=PA215&dq=nearlyfreespeech&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjI-pihwPTmAhVS_aQKHZblBxEQ6AEIVTAE

https://books.google.de/books?id=YJvgDQAAQBAJ&pg=PA153&dq=nearlyfreespeech&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj33uyNtPTmAhVKJ1AKHSlxAnwQ6AEIMDAA#v=onepage&q=nearlyfreespeech&f=false

https://books.google.de/books?id=vOKiDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT82&dq=nearlyfreespeech&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj33uyNtPTmAhVKJ1AKHSlxAnwQ6AEISzAD#v=onepage&q=nearlyfreespeech&f=false

User:Nocturnal306, Are you saying you carefully looked at all this and still have doubt? -- Yae4 (talk) 22:19, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:30, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... ~~that web host and domain name registrar NearlyFreeSpeech was considered for "safe haven" of alt-right Twitter alternative Gab, and in 2012 hosted a controversial anti-badger culling site?~~ Source: "The social media service Gab, which bills itself as Twitter for the alt-right, is on the verge of being booted from the internet." "Andrew Torba, CEO of the company, posted on Monday that “Gab's domain registrar has given us 5 days to transfer our domain or they will seize it.”" "Torba said that he was hopeful Gab would be able to continue running through https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ as a “safe haven.”" "NearlyFreeSpeech's commitment to its credo was tested in 2012 when it hosted a website that displayed the names, home addresses and personal telephone numbers of MPs, farmers and others who were said to be in support of a controversial British policy on badger culling. The domain hosting service hosted the site even as UK's Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs pushed it to take the site down." [1]

Created by Yae4 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:18, 9 January 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Article created day before nom, prose is 3317 b, CCP met, no copyvios found, hook is short but could be shortened a little and interesting, QPQ not needed since this is only your 4th nom. I'll AGF the books. I've filed a report at WP:FFD to see if the logo is below c:COM:TOO, see here. @Yae4: Which ones you prefer?

ALT1: ... that web host and domain name registrar NearlyFreeSpeech was considered for "safe haven" of alt-right Twitter alternative Gab?

ALT2: ... that web host and domain name registrar NearlyFreeSpeech hosted a controversial anti-badger culling site?

Other than that, you're good to go. ミラ P 15:20, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3: ... that web host and domain name registrar NearlyFreeSpeech was considered as a "safe haven" for alt-right Twitter alternative Gab, and hosted a controversial anti-badger culling site?

@Miraclepine: I prefer ALT1 between 1 and 2, but how about ALT3? Thanks for checking into the logo. -- Yae4 (talk) 21:11, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yae4: ALT3 it is, if you change "for" into "a". ミラ P 21:12, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Miraclepine: Changed a touch more, to match the quotes. -- Yae4 (talk) 21:23, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I came by to promote this, but the first hook fact is being phrased as a statement rather than as an opinion credited to The Hill. Please provide an alt. Yoninah (talk) 20:32, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT4: ... that The Hill named web host and domain name registrar NearlyFreeSpeech a "safe haven" for alt-right Twitter alternative Gab?

@Yoninah and Yae4: Either that or ALT2. Can't combine both because I'll be too long. ミラ P 20:41, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT5: ... that The Hill named NearlyFreeSpeech, who hosted a controversial anti-badger culling site, a "safe haven" for alt-right Twitter alternative Gab?

@Yoninah and Miraclepine: How about dropping the "web host and registrar" details as ALT5? -- Yae4 (talk) 20:51, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Yae4, but I agree with Miraclepine that you should choose one fact for a punchier hook rather than crowd in unrelated facts. As I mentioned in another nomination, the point of the hook is to intrigue readers to click on the article, not to tell the whole story in one go. Yoninah (talk) 21:00, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ALT6: ... that The Hill named NearlyFreeSpeech a "safe haven" for alt-right Twitter alternative Gab?

-- Yae4 (talk) 21:11, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yae4: reading the source, this quote is actually attributed to the CEO of Gab. It should not be printed as an endorsement by The Hill. Yoninah (talk) 21:17, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: So now we're back to ALT3, except it's too long or detailed. So, shortening it. -- Yae4 (talk) 21:28, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT7: ... that NearlyFreeSpeech was considered as a "safe haven" for alt-right Twitter alternative Gab?

@Yae4: that's okay. But please rewrite that paragraph under Alt-right and other controversies. It should attribute the "safe haven" quote to the CEO, and in a separate sentence talk about the anti-badger culling. Yoninah (talk) 21:37, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Gave it a shot. -- Yae4 (talk) 21:55, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. It's important to have the article give a little more information about the hook fact, so readers won't be disappointed when they click on the article. I added some more explanation from the source. ALT7 is verified, cited inline, and good to go. Yoninah (talk) 23:13, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]