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The Naturist Society was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 26 October 2023 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Naturism in the United States. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

Nude & Natural was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 26 October 2023 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Naturism in the United States. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

"Merge into" of two articles

The result of the nominations to delete the articles The Naturist Society (TNS) and Nude & Natural (N&N) being to merge them into this article, I offered to do that work. This would include revision to the current content here. I will outline my plans here before doing so. Since N&N is published by TNS, one new subsection under organizations would be created to contain the merged content. The old article titles would then become redirects to the new section. WriterArtistDC (talk) 02:54, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I know the deletion discussions are closed but had I seen them, I would have recommended keeping the magazine.

Wikipedia historically has shown favoritism to subjects which themselves are WP:Reliable sources, and by Special:WhatLinksHere/Nude_&_Natural, this magazine is cited as a source in about 10 other Wikipedia articles.

Some relevant criteria with rationales for keeping could include Wikipedia:Notability_(media)#Newspapers,_magazines_and_journals and Wikipedia:Notability (academic journals).

A reason to not merge here is that this US culture article is already low content, and moving bibliographic info here is WP:UNDUE. The rules make Wikipedia function usually, so if you do the merge, just anticipate that readers need to be able to follow citations from other articles to here. If we ever had access to the 40+ years of continuously published issues, then I expect that citations to this magazine would further spread around Wikipedia, prompting it to have its own article. Bluerasberry (talk) 14:19, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

TNS, the organization publishing N&N is not notable. The N&N article itself admits to being largely written by its own staff, so it is neither a reliable source nor notable. The majority of articles listed in the Nudity and protest that are published by N&N were written by Mark Storey, one of the magazine's editors. The whatlinkhere results are similarly self-referential. WP having independent articles on the organization and its publication gives them undue weight. WriterArtistDC (talk) 15:19, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In preparation for the merge I have moved former organizations to the history section and renamed the organizations section, adding new content on TNS from an encyclopedia source.--WriterArtistDC (talk) 14:53, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The merge and cleanup are complete, I will continue to work to improve this article.--WriterArtistDC (talk) 01:59, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reference style

Since the majority of references are inline, I will likely convert the two remaining list-defined references. WriterArtistDC (talk) 02:07, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposals

@GnocchiFan: The articles on San Francisco and Seattle can be merged here, but "topfreedom" for women is a separate topic, and the content of Female toplessness in the United States substantial, and should remain. WriterArtistDC (talk) 14:02, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have added the relevant content from Social nudity in San Francisco, which could now be made a redirect to the section Local regulation of public nudity. --WriterArtistDC (talk) 04:46, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Seattle content has also been merged, so the maintenance tags have been removed.--WriterArtistDC (talk) 21:15, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]