Talk:Nattukottai Nagarathar

This text was originally created by PL.Chidambaram and first published at http://nagaratharikkiyasangam.org/

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Contested deletion

This page should not be speedy deleted because... --202.83.27.143 (talk) 10:41, 18 July 2011 (UTC) Ariviyur Nagarathar are a different community apart from Nattukottai Nagarathar. Nattukottai Nagarathar's are not just the Nagarathar's. Currently Nagarathar page is defining that only Nagarathar are Nattukottai Nagarathar which is totally wrong.[reply]

The culture, custom and heritage of the Nattukottai Nagarathar and Ariviyur Nagarathar are totally different. A common article named Nagarathar is insufficient. I will contribute more with more relevant documents, references and don't delete this article blindly.

Sincerely

Alangar Manickam

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedy deleted because... --Alangar Manickam (talk) 11:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nattukottai Nagarathar's are not just the Nagarathar's. Currently Nagarathar page is defining that only Nagarathar are Nattukottai Nagarathar which is totally wrong.

The culture, custom and heritage of the Nattukottai Nagarathar and Ariviyur Nagarathar are totally different. A common article named Nagarathar is insufficient.

Contributions from other members will bring more details. Most of the historical documents are in Tamil Language. I am investing lot of effort to convert those in English.

I will contribute more with more relevant documents, references and don't delete this article blindly.

Sincerely

Alangar Manickam

OTRS permission problem

I'm afraid that, on review, the OTRS ticket referenced above is not usable for text on Wikipedia because the correspondent deliberately withheld the right to modificawtion: "Yes i do allow, without changing the version or defacing and removing my name". This is not compatible with the license. Any content remaining from the original will need to be removed, accordingly. I'm hoping that there isn't any, but will see what I can find. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:44, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fortunately, I find no remaining content: [1], [2]. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:11, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing

I have been reverting contributions to the article for some time, most recently here. People need to read our position regarding reliable sources before making edits. For example, caste-affiliated websites are not considered to be reliable, nor are blogs or sources from the British Raj era and earlier. There is a long-standing consensus for this position and thus I will continue to revert if people persist in adding that type of sourced information. Ideally, we want modern academic sources, although news media sources etc may suffice. We certainly cannot accept sources that are not independent of the subject, nor those that are self-published or otherwise of dubious veracity. - Sitush (talk) 17:40, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that the websites of temples are also rarely reliable. They are often closely associated with a specific caste and thus not independent. Even for matters of construction history, it is preferable to find independent authoritative sources, ideally those that have expertise in history and/or architecture. - Sitush (talk) 17:44, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thiru Avinankudi (Kulandai Velayudhaswami Thirukkoil)

What does the information about Thiru Avinankudi (Kulandai Velayudhaswami Thirukkoil) have to do with the article? It has recently been added but makes no sense even after I copyedited it for close paraphrasing. Nowhere does the source seem to mention the Nattukottai Nagarathar and it is not in the preceding list of the supposed nine temples that are related to them. - Sitush (talk) 15:37, 17 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The temple was renovated by the people (whom you have removed) from this community. They're called Chettiar in the reference. This content was added in the Temple section to display their act of benevolence. In my opinion we can expand the section to include all temples which were/are maintained by this community. Nittavinoda (talk) 17:00, 17 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see but that is not good enough. Last name verifies nothing. We need sources that say things such as "X from the Nattukottai Nagarathar community was the benefactor of a temple built at Y". - Sitush (talk) 17:29, 17 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]