Talk:National Tom Sawyer Days

This article was nominated for deletion on 15 February 2023. The result of the discussion was speedy keep.

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Lightburst (talk) 14:47, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that National Tom Sawyer Days is an annual festival in Hannibal, Missouri, which features fence painting and frog jumping? Source: fence painting and frog jumping
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hôtel Albert Ciamberlani
- Comment: Previous article was at AfD and was a copyright violation. The article was improved and now has 1550 characters. The article previously had 215 characters which were referenced.

5x expanded by Lightburst (talk), Randy Kryn (talk), and Dream Focus (talk). Nominated by Lightburst (talk) at 16:45, 19 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/National Tom Sawyer Days; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

@Lightburst: I'm not sure this counts as a 5x expansion. Sure, most of the article was unreferenced but I don't know if 5x expansions only counted cited material from before expansion. I'll have to see opinions from other dyk contributors to see their opinions. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:49, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Onegreatjoke please see the discussion I started on the DYK talk page. There were basically two referenced sentences and they were referenced with non-WP:RS. Article is in shipshape now. Lightburst (talk) 21:21, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator claims that the removed material was copyvio, which doesn't count for the purposes of determining the prose length of the original in a fivefold expansion – nomination is eligible for review, including a review of that claim. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 09:31, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Lightburst: What was it a copyright violation of? An interesting edit history, to be sure. CMD (talk) 15:18, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Chipmunkdavis: Hey thanks for checking it out. The day the article was nominated for AfD it looked like this. The sources were WP:UGC (Answers.com) and they are considered generally unreliable... the UGC cited two sentences. The rest of the article was just un-cited/unreferenced and therefore a copyright violation. So the article had to be rewritten from scratch and new sources had to be found. Lightburst (talk) 21:25, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately being unsourced is not enough to make something a copyright violation. I do agree the article is much improved though. CMD (talk) 02:02, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately it wouldn't qualify, even if we were to take the article prose size when expansion began on 15 February (422 characters, 74 words) to 19 February (1550 characters, 263 words). For future, would strongly recommend installing the DYK check tool. Cielquiparle (talk) 22:28, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]