Talk:National Socialist Council of Nagaland

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Removed the reference to Christianity

There is no reliable source citing the reference to the ideology of NSCN.

WP:INDIA Banner/Nagaland Addition

Note: {{WP India}} Project Banner with Nagaland workgroup parameters was added to this article talk page because the article falls under Category:Nagaland or its subcategories. Should you feel this addition is inappropriate , please undo my changes and update/remove the relavent categories to the article -- Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 10:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV tag

The article seems is biased and seems to have sections with personal reflections. Thus tagged. prashanthns (talk) 05:49, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have tried my best to present the neutral views. Your comment(s) on the updated articles will be very much appreciated. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pingmi (talk • contribs) 12:57, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Designation as Terrorist

Updates referring to the NSCN as a terrorist organization should be carefully phrased. The NSCN sees themselves as a rebel group, but India sees them as a terrorist outfit. The lead already says "On November 6, 2015 in response to an attack on an army convoy in Manipur India designated The NSCN (K) a terrorist organization under the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act", and I believe that is clear and fair. Any further mentions that state the NSCN is a "terrorist" organization as fact should be avoided. --Elephanthunter (talk) 23:09, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wording of Activities Section

Currently the Activities section describes a joint operation by NSCN-K and KYKL, but doesn't include any information about KYKL. Here is the current summary:

On 4 June 2015, NSCN-K ambushed an Indian Army convoy of 6 Dogra Regiment in Chandel district of Manipur and killed 18 Army jawans.^[1] On 10 June India conducted surgical strikes against NSCN(K) militant groups camps along the Indo-Myanmar international border, and inflicted significant casualties.^[2]

But here's how thehindu.com describes the strike unfolding:

Once on the ground, the contingent of the special forces split into two groups and headed for two camps being run by NSCN(K) and KYKL, who are believed to be responsible for the deadly ambush on June 4, they said.

Is there any reason why we should not mention KYKL? It appears as though they are also responsible, and if we read into the source article for the summary at 2015 Indian counter-insurgency operation in Myanmar, it goes on to explain that KYKL were also involved under "Cross-border raid details" and in the list of "Commanders and leaders" in the left siderail.

I'm going to suggest we change both this article and the lead in the source article to this:

On 4 June 2015, NSCN-K and KYKL ambushed an Indian Army convoy of 6 Dogra Regiment in Chandel district of Manipur and killed 18 Army jawans.^[1] On 10 June India conducted surgical strikes against militant camps for both groups along the Indo-Myanmar international border, and inflicted significant casualties.^[2]

References

^ ^a ^b "NSCN (K) camps busted along Indo-Myanmar border". 9 June 2015. Retrieved 19 July 2016.
^ ^a ^b "Myanmar operation: 70 commandos finish task in 40 minutes". thehindu.com. 10 June 2015.

Although if anyone has an alternate suggestion or reasons why KYKL shouldn't be mentioned, I'm interested. --Elephanthunter (talk) 22:59, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please add KYKL in both article as the source mentions. Some of the news articles only mentions NSCN-K, (probably since it is more popular ?)--DBig Xray 21:02, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:INDICSCRIPTS

@Elephanthunter: Did you even read my edit summary about WP:INDICSCRIPTS? Please be careful when you edit pages. If you are unclear about why it was removed, start a talk page discussion. This is getting disruptive now where you have no idea about policies but feel some editors are against your views and you revert them without reason. Adamgerber80 (talk) 15:58, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also, please consider this a warning. Your behavior is now bordering on WP:HOUNDING with following me and other editors around on pages like Babbar Khalsa,Operation Blue Star. Some of us have edits on those pages for months if not years. But you have shown up on them simply because an editor you don't agree with edited it and like this example reverting their edits with little reason and at times in violation of policies. Please tread carefully. Adamgerber80 (talk) 16:02, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

First off, I have been editing and watching this page long before my interactions with you in Khalistan movement. Just because you and DBigXray have dug into other (very much related) pages to make POV edits does not mean that they are suddenly off-limits for other editors. You do not WP:OWN any of these pages.

Second, to address your concern about WP:INDICSCRIPTS, I do require WP:V for any policies you cite. That's not an unreasonable request. Instead of pointing me directly to the documentation, you escalated this unnecessarily with a warning and accusations. --Elephanthunter (talk) 16:23, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Elephanthunter: Please choose your words carefully. My earlier comment stated the policy but you seemed to not read it but revert my edit simply because you believe @DBigXray: and I have some POV which you have to somehow negate. This is typical WP:HOUNDING and assuming Wikipedia to be a WP:BATTLEGROUND. Did you even ask on the talk page what indic scripts was before you reverted or simply assumed bad faith and reverted. Adamgerber80 (talk) 16:28, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are continuing to escalate unnecessarily and the discussion has derailed from contributing to the article. It's fair for me to require verifiability for policies and procedures, and I'm glad we cleared up that misunderstanding. Unless you have something to discuss directly related to this article, I think this discussion is over. --Elephanthunter (talk) 16:43, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Group's name

These people probably need to be advised that even if you are both a "nationalist" movement and a "socialist" movement that it is in their best interest NOT to refer to this as "National Socialism", which has a very different connotation than the one most likely intended. 72.106.155.46 (talk) 00:30, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

the term doesn't have the same connotations in the far east due to the fact that they didn't experience nor witness the horrors of nazism like the west did. JackyTheChemosh (talk) 20:37, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good explanation. 4kbw9Df3Tw (talk) 02:48, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

[auto-1] "NSCN (K) camps busted along Indo-Myanmar border". 9 June 2015. Retrieved 19 July 2016.

[hindu-2] "Myanmar operation: 70 commandos finish task in 40 minutes". thehindu.com. 10 June 2015.

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