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Immediate parents

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We all know the National Geographic Society and 21st Century Fox are eventual parent organisations of National Geographic Partners, but which companies within the former two are the immediate parents?

Well, the documents (especially full accounts) filed to the Companies House UK by NGC UK HOLDINGS COMPANY LIMITED and NGC OVERSEAS HOLDINGS LIMITED seem to suggest something. While the documents from each company provide limited information about ownership, when the two are combined, we can find what are the immediate parents of National Geographic Partners.

  • Fox Entertainment Group, Inc. (73.2%) and NGT, Inc. (d/b/a National Geographic Television; 26.8%)
    • National Geographic Partners, LLC.
      • (some steps)
        • NGC Network Latin America LLC. (53.68%) and NGC Network International LLC. (46.32%)
          • NGC Network UK Holdco LLC.
            • NGC UK Holdings Company Limited
              • NGC Overseas Holdings Limited

JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 05:02, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some proposed changes

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Disclosure: I work for National Geographic Partners. I would like to improve the factual accuracy of this page and add more information. Nicole913 (talk) 13:29, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In Company Infobox:


Background

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National Geographic Partners, LLC is a joint venture of The Walt Disney Company (which owns 73% of shares) and the namesake non-profit scientific organization National Geographic Society (which owns 27%). The company oversees all commercial activities related to the Society, including magazine publications and television channels.[1]

The joint venture was established in 2015, but the National Geographic Society's relationship with 21st Century Fox goes as far as back to late 1990s, when the original News Corporation (which 21st Century Fox is one of the successors) launched National Geographic Channel (now simply branded as National Geographic) in Asia and Europe, in partnership with the Society. The U.S. domestic version of the channel was launched in 2001.[2]

Later Developments

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Following the acquisition, National Geographic Partners channels became part of Walt Disney Television unit; with Gary Knell, Chairman of National Geographic Partners, reporting directly to the Walt Disney Television chairman, Peter Rice. Disney officially closed the deal on March 20, 2019.[3]

Awards

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National Geographic’s documentary “Free Solo” won Best Documentary Feature at the 91st Academy Awards.[4] The film was the second-highest grossing documentary of 2018[5] and earned the highest per-screen average of the year.[6] It won the BAFTA for Best Documentary[7] and has a 99% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.[8]

In 2019, National Geographic received seven nominations for the National Magazine Awards for Print and Digital Media[9] and won for General Excellent, News, Sports and Entertainment.[10]

National Geographic dedicated its January 2017 issue of the magazine to gender.[11] In 2017, National Geographic was named a Pulitzer Prize finalist for Explanatory Reporting “For a deep and sensitive exploration of gender worldwide, using remarkable photography, moving video and clear writing to illuminate a subject that is at once familiar and misunderstood.”[12]

In 2018, National Geographic was named the first Webby Media Company of the Year.[13] The award recognizes the most successful media company across all Webby categories.[14]

In 2018, National Geographic and Nat Geo WILD earned a combined 18 Emmy nominations, a record for the company.[15]

References

  1. ^ Littleton, Cynthia (19 March 2019). "Listen: National Geographic Chief Gary Knell on Disney Future, Fox's Legacy". Variety. Retrieved 12 April 2019.
  2. ^ Farhi, Paul (9 September 2015). "National Geographic gives Fox control of media assets in $725 million deal". Washington Post. Retrieved 12 April 2019.
  3. ^ Schwartz, Matthew S. (20 March 2019). "Disney Officially Owns 21st Century Fox". NPR. Retrieved 12 April 2019.
  4. ^ Patten, Dominic (24 February 2019). "'Free Solo' Wins Best Documentary Feature, Gets First Bleep Of Oscars 2019". Deadline. Retrieved 12 April 2019.
  5. ^ Rubin, Rebecca (3 February 2019). "Box Office: 'Free Solo' Becomes Second-Biggest Documentary of 2018". Variety. Retrieved 12 April 2019.
  6. ^ Rodriguez, Ashley (2 October 2018). "In a great year for documentaries, "Free Solo" set a record". Quartz. Retrieved 12 April 2019.
  7. ^ Sheehan, Paul (10 February 2019). "2019 BAFTA Awards: 'Roma' wins Best Picture and Director, 'The Favourite' takes 7 [UPDATING LIVE BLOG]". Gold Derby. Retrieved 12 April 2019.
  8. ^ "Free Solo". Rotten Tomatoes. Retrieved 12 April 2019.
  9. ^ "Ellies 2019 Finalists Announced". American Society of Magazine Editors. Retrieved 12 April 2019.
  10. ^ Jerde, Sara (15 March 2019). "The New Yorker Takes Home Top Honors at 2019 Ellie Awards". Adweek. Retrieved 12 April 2019.
  11. ^ Miller, Susan (19 December 2016). "Trans girl, 9, makes history on National Geographic cover". USA Today. Retrieved 12 April 2019.
  12. ^ "Finalist: Staff of National Geographic, Washington, D.C." The Pulitzer Prizes. Retrieved 12 April 2019.
  13. ^ Ramos, Ray (24 April 2018). "Webby Awards: 'Game Of Thrones', Lin-Manuel Miranda, Lady Gaga Among Winners". Deadline. Retrieved 12 April 2019.
  14. ^ "SPECIAL ACHIEVEMENT Webby Media Company of the Year". Webby Awards. Retrieved 12 April 2019.
  15. ^ Porter, Rick (2 November 2018). "National Geographic Head Courteney Monroe Re-Ups Ahead of Disney Merger". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved 12 April 2019.

Reply 11-APR-2019

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  Unable to review edit request  

  • Your edit request could not be reviewed because the provided references are not formatted correctly.[a] The citation style predominantly used by the National Geographic Partners article is Citation Style 1 (CS1). The citation style used in the edit request consists of bare URL's.[b] Any requested edit of yours which may be implemented will need to resemble the current style already in use in the article – in this case, CS1. (See WP:CITEVAR.) In the extended section below titled Citation style, I have illustrated two examples: one showing how the edit request was submitted, and another showing how requests should be submitted in the future:
Citation style
Bare URL reference formatting:

The Sun's diameter is 864,337.3 miles,[1] while the Moon's diameter is 2,159 miles.[2] The Sun's temperature is 5,778 degrees Kelvin.[3]

References

1. https://www.booksource.com
2. http://www.journalsource.com
3. http://www.websource.com

In the example above there are three URL's provided with the claim statements, but these URL's have not been placed using Citation Style 1, which is the style predominantly used by the National Geographic Partners article. Using this style, the WikiFormatted text should resemble the following:

Citation Style 1 formatting:

The Sun's diameter is 864,337.3 miles,<ref>{{cite book|last1=Sjöblad|first1=Tristan|title=The Sun|url=http://www.booksource.com|publisher=Academic Press|date=2018|page=1}}</ref> while the Moon's diameter is 2,159 miles.<ref>{{cite journal|last1=Harinath|first1=Paramjit|title=Size of the Moon|journal=Science|issue=78|volume=51|url=http://www.journalsource.com|date=2018|page=46}}</ref> The Sun's temperature is 5,778 degrees Kelvin.<ref>{{cite web|last1=Uemura|first1=Shu|title=The Sun's Heat|url=http://www.websource.com|publisher=Academic Press|date=2018|page=2}}</ref>

Displays as:

The Sun's diameter is 864,337.3 miles,[1] while the Moon's diameter is 2,159 miles.[2] The Sun's temperature is 5,778 degrees Kelvin.[3]

References

  1. ^ Sjöblad, Tristan. The Sun. Academic Press, 2018, p. 1.
  2. ^ Harinath, Paramjit. "Size of the Moon", Science, 51(78):46.
  3. ^ Uemura, Shū. The Sun's Heat. Academic Press, 2018, p. 2.

In the example above the references have been formatted according to Citation Style 1, which shows the author, the source's name, date, etc., all information which is lost when only the links are provided. As Wikipedia is a volunteer project, edit requests such yours are generally expected to have this formatting done before the request is submitted for review.

Kindly rewrite your edit request so that it aligns more with the second example shown in the collapsed section above, and feel free to re-submit that edit request at your earliest convenience. If you have any questions about this formatting please don't hesitate to ask myself or another editor. Regards,  Spintendo  22:23, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

  1. ^ The fault for this formatting error may have originated with the automated prompts used by the edit request template, which asks for a COI editor to "supply the URL of any references used". While the resulting omission of information would not be the fault of the requesting COI editor, it nevertheless remains their responsibility to supply the references formatted in the style used by the article.
  2. ^ The use of bare URLs as references is a style which is acceptable for use in Wikipedia. However, general practice dictates that the style already in use for an article be the one that is subsequently used for all future additions unless changed by editorial consensus.[1]

References

  1. ^ "WP:CITEVAR - Wikipedia:Citing sources". Wikipedia. 20 October 2018. Retrieved 22 October 2018. Guideline: It is normal practice to defer to the style used by the first major contributor or adopted by the consensus of editors already working on the page, unless a change in consensus has been achieved. If the article you are editing is already using a particular citation style, you should follow it.

Reply 12-APR-2019

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Thank you for your feedback! I have formatted the references. Nicole913 (talk) 13:29, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request proposal reply 13-APR-2019

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Below you will see where proposals from your request have been quoted with reviewer decisions and feedback inserted underneath, either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposal(s). Please read the enclosed notes within the proposal review section below for information on each request.  Spintendo  06:12, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal review 13-APR-2019

National Geographic Partners, LLC is a joint venture of The Walt Disney Company (which owns 73% of shares) and the namesake non-profit scientific organization National Geographic Society (which owns 27%). The company oversees all commercial activities related to the Society, including magazine publications and television channels. The joint venture was established in 2015, but the National Geographic Society's relationship with 21st Century Fox goes as far as back to late 1990s, when the original News Corporation (which 21st Century Fox is one of the successors) launched National Geographic Channel (now simply branded as National Geographic) in Asia and Europe, in partnership with the Society. The U.S. domestic version of the channel was launched in 2001. Following the acquisition, National Geographic Partners channels became part of Walt Disney Television unit;
 Already done.[note 1]


with Gary Knell, Chairman of National Geographic Partners, reporting directly to the Walt Disney Television chairman, Peter Rice.
Clarification needed.[note 2]


Disney officially closed the deal on March 20, 2019.
 Already done.[note 3]


National Geographic’s documentary “Free Solo” won Best Documentary Feature at the 91st Academy Awards. The film was the second-highest grossing documentary of 2018
 Approved.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).


and earned the highest per-screen average of the year.
Clarification needed.[note 4]


It won the BAFTA for Best Documentary
 Approved.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).


and has a 99% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
no Declined.[note 5]


In 2019, National Geographic received seven nominations for the National Magazine Awards for Print and Digital Media
Clarification needed.[note 6]


and won for General Excellent, News, Sports and Entertainment.
Clarification needed.[note 7]


National Geographic dedicated its January 2017 issue of the magazine to gender. In 2017, National Geographic was named a Pulitzer Prize finalist for Explanatory Reporting “For a deep and sensitive exploration of gender worldwide, using remarkable photography, moving video and clear writing to illuminate a subject that is at once familiar and misunderstood.”
no Declined.[note 8]


In 2018, National Geographic was named the first Webby Media Company of the Year. The award recognizes the most successful media company across all Webby categories. In 2018, National Geographic and Nat Geo WILD earned a combined 18 Emmy nominations, a record for the company.
no Declined.[note 9]


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  1. ^ The asked-for changes in this section of the edit request are already in the article.
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  3. ^ The asked-for changes in this section of the edit request are already in the article.
  4. ^ This part of the edit request proposal requires clarification because it is not known what is meant by "highest per-screen average of the year".
  5. ^ This information is germane to the article on Free Solo.
  6. ^ These nominations are not delineated. Additionally, it is not known if these nominations are related to the awards listed just after this claim (See Note #7).
  7. ^ This part of the edit request proposal requires clarification because it is not known what categories these awards come from, if they are related to the NMA's for Print and Digital Media, or if these are the nominations spoken of in the first part of the claim's sentence. (See also Note #6.)
  8. ^ This information is germane to the article on National Geographic.
  9. ^ This part of the edit request proposal was declined because the text is insufficiently paraphrased from the source material.[1] Text added to the article must be placed in an editor's own words, using an editor's own phrasing. See WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE.

References

  1. ^ Insufficiently paraphrased text found National Geographic Partners: Edit request proposal, 12-APR-2019

Reply 13-APR-2019

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Thank you for your edits to my requests,  Spintendo 

I would like the clarify the ownership of the company. National Geographic Partners is a joint venture between the National Geographic Society and The Walt Disney Company, not Walt Disney Television, to be consistent with the National Geographic TV page. Sources: [1] [2] [3]


Clarification for: with Gary Knell, Chairman of National Geographic Partners, reporting directly to the Walt Disney Television chairman, Peter Rice. Sources: [4] [5]

Clarification for: In 2018, National Geographic was named the first Webby Media Company of the Year. The award recognizes the most successful media company across all Webby categories. In 2018, National Geographic and Nat Geo WILD earned a combined 18 Emmy nominations, a record for the company.

Change to: In 2018, National Geographic was named the first Webby Media Company of the Year by the International Academy of Digital Arts and Sciences[6]. winning a total of 26 awards.[7]

In 2018, National Geographic and Nat Geo WILD were nominated for a total of 18 Emmy Awards.[8]

Nicole913 (talk) 19:18, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Support Center". National Geographic. Retrieved 13 April 2019.
  2. ^ "Disney and 21st Century Fox Announce per Share Value in Connection with $71 Billion Acquisition". The Walt Disney Company. Retrieved 13 April 2019.
  3. ^ Zhang, Michael (15 December 2017). "Disney to Buy National Geographic in $52 Billion Deal for Fox". Petapixel. Retrieved 13 April 2019.
  4. ^ Holloway, Daniel (8 October 2018). "Fox Execs Peter Rice, Dana Walden, John Landgraf, Gary Knell Set to Join Disney". No. Variety. Retrieved 13 April 2019.
  5. ^ Andreeva, Nellie (8 October 2018). "Disney Unveils Top TV Executive Structure Post Fox Acquisition: Peter Rice, Dana Walden, John Landgraf, Gary Knell Joining". No. Deadline. Retrieved 13 April 2019.
  6. ^ Ramos, Ray (24 April 2018). "Webby Awards: 'Game Of Thrones', Lin-Manuel Miranda, Lady Gaga Among Winners". Deadline. Retrieved 12 April 2019.
  7. ^ Jardine, Alexandra (24 April 2018). "BBDO WINS WEBBY AGENCY OF THE YEAR FOR SECOND CONSECUTIVE YEAR". No. AdAge. Retrieved 13 April 2019.
  8. ^ Porter, Rick (2 November 2018). "National Geographic Head Courteney Monroe Re-Ups Ahead of Disney Merger". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved 12 April 2019.

Reply 13-APR-2019

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  1. The lead section's WikiLink to Walt Disney Television updated to Walt Disney Company.
  2. The article already states that the position of Chairman of National Geographic Partners reports directly to the Walt Disney Television chairman. The specifics of who occupies these positions is not the point — that one position reports to the other is. In due time, reports of those occupying those roles may become irrelevant when the individuals in those positions are replaced, whereas the roles themselves will go on.
  3. The individual Webby Award categories and the individual Emmy nominations and/or win categories should be delineated for clarity. It should also be clarified if the winner was designated as National Geographic Partners per se, or if any relevant subsidiaries were the direct recipients of these nominations/awards.

plus Additional changes made:

  1. The Background and History sections were merged.
  2. Information on staff reductions, i.e., the basic claim "National Geographic and First Century Fox announced that 9 percent of National Geographic's 2,000 employees, approximately 180 people, would be laid off", was retained. Additional claims which utilized mis-referenced quoted material[a] or relayed speculation on further numbers of positions being eliminated, was omitted per WP:DUE.

Regards,  Spintendo  19:55, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

  1. ^ The specific quote used here may have been referenced by a ref tag which was incorrectly placed in the article, likely one placed a few sentences before the quote. Ref tags which reference quotations ought to be placed immediately following the quoted material itself, while all ref tags should be placed as close to the material as possible (See WP:INTEGRITY).

Reply 13-APR-2019

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Thank you,  Spintendo  for the updates and feedback.

The infobox box should be updated to The Walt Disney Company as owner to be consistent. A link can be added to Gary Knell.

The article already states that the position of Chairman of National Geographic Partners reports directly to the Walt Disney Television chairman. The specifics of who occupies these positions is not the point — that one position reports to the other is. In due time, reports of those occupying those roles may become irrelevant when the individuals in those positions are replaced, whereas the roles themselves will go on.

Feedback: The article states: the president of the National Geographic Partners reporting directly to the Walt Disney Television chairman. But the title is incorrect. Gary Knell is the chairman of National Geographic Partners.

Nicole913 (talk) 21:15, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed Additions

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Disclosure: I work for National Geographic Partners. I would like to improve the factual accuracy of this page and add more information.

Under Television channels, the description of National Geographic should be updated. The channel airs all types of non-fiction programming, not just documentaries, as shown in the National Geographic (TV network) article.


TO ADD:

On January 13, 2017, National Geographic announced the launch of National Geographic Documentary Films.[1] Under the banner, National Geographic has released feature documentaries including Free Solo, Jane,[2] Science Fair,[3] Paris to Pittsburgh with Bloomberg Philanthropies,[4] LA 92[5] and From the Ashes.[6] On March 4, 2019, National Geographic Documentary Films announced it will release a documentary about the Tham Luang cave rescue.[7]

Disney+

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Further information: List of original programs distributed by Disney+

Content from National Geographic will be available on Disney+, an upcoming subscription streaming service.[8] National Geographic is producing two non-fiction series for the platform: The World According to Jeff Goldblum[9] and Magic of the Animal Kingdom.[10]


Nicole913 (talk) 15:55, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Birnbaum, Debra (13 January 2017). "National Geographic Unveils New Banner to Produce Feature Documentaries (EXCLUSIVE)". No. Variety. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  2. ^ Hamon, Pete (22 September 2017). "'Jane' First Look: Doc On Jane Goodall's Early Work With Chimps Culled From 100 Hours Of Unseen Footage". No. Deadline. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  3. ^ McNary, Dave (18 April 2018). "National Geographic Buys Festival Winner 'Science Fair'". No. Variety. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  4. ^ Fleming Jr., Mike. "Michael Bloomberg Takes On Trump Over Climate Change In Nat Geo Docu 'Paris To Pittsburgh': Watch". No. Deadline. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  5. ^ Waxman, Olivia B. (20 April 2017). "Exclusive Clip From Rodney King Riots Documentary Shows Declaration of Emergency in L.A." No. TIME. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  6. ^ Evans, Greg (13 April 2017). "National Geographic Acquires Tribeca Fest Coal Doc 'From The Ashes'". No. Deadline. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  7. ^ Pedersen, Erik (4 March 2019). "Thai Cave Rescue Documentary Set At National Geographic". No. Deadline. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  8. ^ Alexander, Julia (11 April 2019). "Disney+ will be available on November 12th for $6.99 a month". The Verge. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  9. ^ Sippell, Margeaux (11 April 2019). "Jeff Goldblum Is Getting His Own Disney+ Docuseries". The Wrap. Retrieved 14 May 2019.
  10. ^ Blichert, Frederick (11 April 2019). "Disney+ set for November launch, reveals non-fiction slate". Realscreen. Retrieved 14 May 2019.

Reply 16-MAY-2019

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  Edit request declined  

  • Both claims involve the announcements of future state-of-affairs or events.

Regards,  Spintendo  16:33, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

19-MAY-2019

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Thank you for your feedback, Spintendo. I disagree that the claims are announcements of future state-of-affairs or events. For National Geographic Documentary Films, all of the films have already been released, as shown by the citations. For Disney+, the programs have been announced and are listed on the Disney+ page.


Nicole913 (talk) 17:25, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 19-MAY-2019

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If the claims involve items which have occurred, then the phrasing needs to be reworded to signify this. The phrasing currently used in your proposal is thus:

  1. "On March 4, 2019, National Geographic Documentary Films announced it will release a documentary about the Tham Luang cave rescue."
  2. "Content from National Geographic will be available on Disney+, an upcoming subscription streaming service. National Geographic is producing two non-fiction series for the platform: The World According to Jeff Goldblum and Magic of the Animal Kingdom."[a]

Regards,  Spintendo  21:35, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

  1. ^ As a produced effort does not involve long, infinite running state of affairs, but rather, an item which occures during a specific period of time — the phrase "is producing" violates MOS:RELTIME because there will come a time when they are no longer producing it, because the item will have been already produced. The phrasing used does not take this into effect, and depends upon someone altering it in the future. This type of wording is the basis of MOS:RELTIME.
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