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Reviewer: NiciVampireHeart 18:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Quick fail criteria
  1. Has reliable sources
  2. Is written neutrally
  3. No valid cleanup tags
  4. Is relatively stable with no edit wars
  5. Not specifically concerned with a rapidly unfolding current event with a definite endpoint
Full review to follow. NiciVampireHeart 18:50, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Full review

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GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:
Initial thoughts
  • 2 links in the article need diambiguating: [1]
  • 2 dead links which should be replaced if possible: [2]
  • My initial thought on reading through the article is that his youth career and time spent at Sporting CP is 'glossed' over. There’s a lot more detail on his ManU career. Try and expand out the early part of the article if possible: the early life and the Sporting CP sections.
    • Early life suggestions:
      • Why was he raised by his aunt?
      • Siblings?
      • Schools?
      • Heros/idols?
  • There's some problems with overlinking in the article as well, e.g. Cristiano Ronaldo is linked several times throughout the article. Link only the first occurence. And make sure it's the first occurence that is linked, e.g. you've linked Old Trafford the second time it appears in the article, but not the first.
Prose
  • The infobox says he plays as a winger/forward, the lead just says winger. Which is correct? They should be consistent.
  • In the lead you say he's "commonly known as Nani". I was expecting some explanation as to why later on in the article. It's not part of his birth name, so it's obviously some sort of nickname. Is there any information on where he got it? When he first started to be called Nani, etc?
  • "imigrated" is spelt with 2 m's.
  • "the attention of Manchester United, who eventually secured his services". Remove 'eventually'. He attracted their attention before the start of the 2007-08 season, and he signed before the start of the 2007-08 season. That's not "eventually" signing.
  • "would often kick a ball about together" is very informal. Why not say "used to play football together"?
  • "five percent of which was paid to Real de Massamá"? Why? There’s no mention of “Real de Massamá” previously. Did they train him or something? Also is there a link for Real de Massamá?
    • Cannot find any article explaining why Real de Massamá recieved a five percent cut.
      • I don't think that this is too worrisome any more, since Real de Massamá is mentioned as one of his first clubs. It's not just randomly thrown into the article, leaving the reader going "huh?". NiciVampireHeart 16:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the Red Devils". Who? The fact that this is a nickname for ManU is not explained anywhere, and those unfamiliar with football will be confused by it.
  • "which set the ball rolling to a 4–1 win" seems very informal. Suggest rewording.
  • "It was the first game in which it was thought that Wayne Rooney and Carlos Tévez showed the first real promise of forming a good strike partnership." Irrelevant to this article.
  • "With the departure of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid, there would be many wanting to take over free-kick duties and Nani put his mark down as first choice". This doesn’t really make sense. Also what’s the relevancy? Did he become first choice? Was the fact he wasn’t first choice part of the reason why he wanted to leave?
  • "After many disappointing games at United, Nani hit out at Sir Alex Ferguson and his man management tactics, which looked to seal his place out of the Old Trafford club with his intention to leave". Doesn’t make sense, especially the last part. Reword please.
  • "On 31 January 2010, Nani produced a sublime piece of skill to set up the first goal in the 3–1 league victory over Arsenal, tricking his way past Gaël Clichy and Samir Nasri he then stepped aside Denilson before lifting the ball to the far post, where keeper Manuel Almunia could only palm the ball into his own net." Run-on sentence. Problems with pov as well.
  • "Just four minutes later he then teed up Wayne Rooney for his 100th Premier League goal" - it's not clear whose 100th Premier League goal is being referred to here.
  • "Following this matured performance, Nani then set up the second of a 5–0 home win over Portsmouth, however just four days later he was sent off for a lunge at Stiliyan Petrov against Aston Villa, which resulted in a three match ban and ruled him out of the League Cup final." Run-on sentence. Split into 2.
  • "rewarded for his recent performances with a new four-year contract at United, committing himself until 2014." His contract was a reward?
  • "Despite being 3–2 and eventually winning the game, Bayern knocked United out on away goals with the aggregate score being ending 4–4." --> "Despite United winning the game, they were eliminated from the competiton due to the away goals rule when the aggregate score was 4–4."
  • "On 26 May 2010, it was confirmed by the Dubious Goals Panel that Nani's effort against Arsenal at the Emirates is awarded as his goal and not an Almunia own goal, thus ending his season with 7 goals and not 6." What goal at Arsenal? This is very random. There's no mention until this point that one of his goals was disputed.
  • "Nani scored a controversial second goal" - why was it controversial?
  • "in Portugal's 4–2 friendly defeat against Denmark" --> "in Portugal's 4–2 friendly defeat to Denmark".
  • "and setting up the third goal for Portugal". Wrong tense. Should be "and set up the third goal for Portugal"
  • "Nani was influential in the 2010 World Cup playoff against Bosnia and Herzegovina: in the first leg sending in a pin-point cross to Bruno Alves who scored with a header, giving Portugal a one goal advantage going into the second leg away in Bosnia. Nani again set up the goal, sending a clever pass to the feet of Raúl Meireles who slotted it into the bottom left hand corner. Portugal won the playoff 2–0 and qualified for the 2010 World Cup." A few things: a) was it this playoff that cemented their qualification? If that needs to be explicitly noted. b) "Nani again set up the goal" - what goal? The second goal of the tie? Clarify. c) some POV with "clever pass" and "pin-point cross".
  • "On 8 June 2010, just three days before the World Cup's opening game takes place" --> On 8 June 2010, three days before the opening game of the World Cup".
  • I don't like the celebration section down at the bottom on its own. I;'d suggest a) moving it up to above statistics and honours sections, and b) integrating it with a 'Style of play' section.
  • "For a while, it was widely reported" - one source in the article states that his celebration has been banned. That's not 'widely' reported.
  • "Nani decided to set the record straight; "That is not true", he said. "Ferguson has never spoken to me about this subject and I am going to continue to celebrate goals in this way. The conversations he has had with me are normal conversations, like he has with all players." --> "Nani denounced the reports in August 2007, stating that is was "not true" and that "Ferguson has never spoken to me about this subject and I am going to continue to celebrate goals in this way. The conversations he has had with me are normal conversations, like he has with all players."
References
  • Entire Sporting CP section is unreferenced.
  • "He also scored with a stunning strike against Middlesbrough, which set the ball rolling to a 4–1 win." Source?
  • "Nani was the youngest member of the Portugal squad at the 2006 UEFA Under-21 Championship." Source?
  • "Nani's form for Manchester United during the 2007–08 season ultimately earned him a call-up to Luiz Felipe Scolari's 23-man squad for Euro 2008, alongside club team-mate Cristiano Ronaldo." Can you source that his was his performances for United that earned him a call-up?
  • "his man of the match performance against Malta in which he opened the scoring in the 13th minute with a low, left footed volley and setting up the third goal for Portugal midfielder Miguel Veloso." The source (reference 61) says nothing about him being man of the match, says he scored the fourth goal, not the first, and there is no mention of a 'Miguel Veloso'.
  • "The celebration derives from Nani's background in capoeira, which he used to practice as a child." Source?
  • Several of the sources to ManU's website appear to redirect to the homepage, which doesn't verify the info:
    • Reference numbers: 6, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 22, 25, 32, 49, and 51.
  • I think reference 66 is a footnote, not a source? If so, please split it out into its own section.
  • References 64 and 65 should have |publisher=British Broadcasting Corporation added for consistency with the other references from BBC.
POV
  • "stunning strike"
  • "this coming before he revealed his frustrating injury problems that have cursed his United career"
  • "great performance"
  • "dramatic turnabout"
  • "sublime piece of skill"
  • "matured performance"
  • "good work"
  • "fine chipped finish"
Conclusion
  • This needs a good bit of work to reach GA status, but it's achieveable.
  • I am placing it on hold for seven days to allow you to fix the problems listed. If the work is completed before then, I will pass the article before the seven days are up. If no attempts are made to correct the problems, I will fail the article in seven days. If you are not finished within the seven days, I have no problem in extending the hold period to allow you to finish, as long as I see work is being carried out on the article.
  • To make it easier for me to see how much work has been done, please either strike each comment when the problem has been fixed or post a note underneath each item saying it is completed.
  • Feel free request to clarification on anything; you can leave comments on my talk page or here, as I have this page watchlisted.
NiciVampireHeart 16:01, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I feel I have done as much as I could, if you feel there is more to do then let me know.
Healy6991 (talk) 13:37, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Drive by Comment - There's still a couple of WP:MOS problems. Remember that years don't need to be repeated in the prose after first mention. Also, all references need to be after punctuation. Some of the prose seems to be a bit difficult as well since it's very score and date heavy Spiderone 11:27, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks to Spiderone for his help.
  • I did a quick copyedit of the article myself just to clear up some remaining prose/grammar issues.
  • I now feel confident that this article meets the GA criteria, so pass!
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