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I don't like the looks of this page. This reminds me of WP:INDISCRIMINATE.

It seems very helpful - I couldn't find this information anywhere else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.249.191.90 (talk) 14:45, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Name of Greece in Chinese

If a chinese friend (or anyone that knows really good chinese obviously) ever stumbles upon this talk page, it would be awesome if he\she could clarify a thing for me. Here in Greece, many -not so trustworthy- news sites and blogs propagate a rumor that the word "Greece" in Chinese (mandarin i think - Xīlà) means "The other great civilization". Because of the luck of trust towards the aforementioned news sources, my inability to find any sources on the web and the relative easiness of some people to believe anything, i ask here if this is true. I believe that if it is true (doubt it) it would be a nice addition to this article. Thank you Moumouza (talk) 00:13, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. If true, where do the Chinese rate Babylon and Egypt? :-) HammerFilmFan (talk) 09:08, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Moumouza. I am a Chinese (from China) and I can tell you that Xīlà doesn't mean "the other great civilization". It's just a transliteration of Hellas and has no actual meaning at all(here the Chinese characters only denote the sound). Also, in China, textbooks frequently use the term "Four Great Civilizations", which refers to Mesopotamia, Egypt, India and China. All these four are "Great River Civilizations" and Greece is not included as it is a "Maritime Civilization". --LIN Jingqiu — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.17.158.161 (talk) 17:19, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On the Roman origin of the name

Currently there is this sentence in the first paragraph under Origin: "It is unclear why the Romans called the country Graecia and its people Graeci." Way back when I was an undergraduate in my survey course on Ancient Greece and Rome, I learned that the first encounter the Romans had with the Greeks was at a Grecian colony located on the sole of the Italian boot that had some name like Grecia (I don't remember the exact name). From that the Romans started calling all of their kin by the Greek name. Is that not the case? __209.179.27.113 (talk) 18:21, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're referring to this (see footnote), i.e. to this (minus the χ or at least the dasy part thereof; see also OED s.v. Greek), i.e. to this theory. Thanatos|talk|contributions 22:41, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Norway, why?

So can anyone here tell my why does Norway use "Hellas" unlike its immediate neighbors and most of Europe? -- sion8 ^{talk page} 08:14, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The original Scandinavian Viking names for the Aegean lands where

1. Särkland - Shirland, robeland, weaveland, since weavery where among many things came from there, See Illiad and Odessey about weaving, weaving weaving.

2. Tackland - A word related to fishing tacks, threads and tools for fishing invented and spread by the Aegeans. And compare - "tack" - "thanks". In othere languages Greece is derove for the roman word for Grassa, "fat" and "thanks" thanks for all the fat, the assistance in thought, deed and foods.

3. Hellas is derived from Helen, Ellada, the land of the Helens. Same Helen that went to troy and is the subject matter of mankinds two original stories by Homeros, The Illiad (of ill dees and things) and the Odessy (of the travel and eternal journey of man, Odesseus.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by CSjoholm (talk • contribs) 06:44, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

first what?

In fact, they have rather referred to themselves as 'Hellenes', adopting the traditional appelation of the Hellas region, as in ancient Greek literature it is mentioned as one of the first to be established thereby.

One of the first what to be established by what?? —Tamfang (talk) 23:46, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yūnan and Yavan

I'm a little bit itchy about counting Yavan as a descendant of Yūnan. My guess is that Yavan is older, preserving a digamma that was lost in Greek after Semitic contact but before Persian contact. Does anyone know better? —Tamfang (talk) 02:14, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]