Talk:Naagin (2015 TV series)/Archive 3
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No Indic Script
I was recently informed that Indic script shouldn't be used in infobox or lead section of India related articles as per WP:NOINDICSCRIPT. I was asking if it applies here? I thought of being bold and doing it but nah talk pages are better. TryKid (talk) 12:39, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- @TryKid: Thanks for asking! The only thing that I see that violates WP:NOINDICSCRIPT is the Hindi name for Naagin in the infobox, but if you want to remove that, I would say to go ahead and do so! Noah Kastin (talk) (🖋) 13:45, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
|native_name=
was specifically added to {{Infobox television}} for the purpose for which it is being used in this article so I'm not sure whether WP:NOINDICSCRIPT actually applies here. --AussieLegend (✉) 13:56, 25 April 2018 (UTC)- AussieLegend, Noah Kastin; Before I do something I want everyone to be on board. So, we write native names on infoboxes if title cards use Indic script? If we do, I'll go ahead and inform Sid95Q and edit Chhoti Anandi to include it there too. So, everyone okay with that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TryKid (talk • contribs) 14:21, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- @TryKid: I could go either way on this, so whichever way everyone else decides to go on this, I'll be fine with that. Noah Kastin (talk) (🖋) 14:23, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- AussieLegend, Noah Kastin; Before I do something I want everyone to be on board. So, we write native names on infoboxes if title cards use Indic script? If we do, I'll go ahead and inform Sid95Q and edit Chhoti Anandi to include it there too. So, everyone okay with that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TryKid (talk • contribs) 14:21, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: and @Ravensfire: Your take on this topic??. Sid95Q (talk) 19:05, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- I saw TryKid's note on my talk page and I also got a ping here, so I'll reply here. According to WP:NOINDICSCRIPT there have been numerous discussions about the use of Indic scripts in general, and this RfC from about a year ago seemed to decide that we should exclude all Indic scripts from infoboxes. To address AussieLegend's comment about
|native_name=
, Template talk:Infobox television/Archive 10#Proposal: Add "native_name" parameter was the discussion, and I proposed the addition of that parameter to be consistent with what had been set up at Template:Infobox film. Geraldo Perez's support of the parameter addition was contingent on the promise that the parameter didn't step on RfCs pertinent Indian articles, so that should be considered. Personally, had I known about the Infobox Indic script RfC, I would have !voted in favor of keeping the Indic scripts, because they do provide some benefit in case we were looking for references. But, a recurring issue in things-India-related, is that some people want to use opportunities like this to wedge their own ethnic identity into articles. Example: In a film produced by the Indian Hindi film industry that is simultaneously filmed in Tamil and Telugu, do we include all three scripts? What about dubs? I guess a lot of the folks who commented at that RfC felt that this sort of thing can be crufty, so we should also take that into consideration. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:10, 26 April 2018 (UTC) - Cyphoidbomb, Sid95Q So, I think that if the show was produced in one language only (not counting dubs) and the title card is in that language, we should add native language. If no one has any problems, I'll go ahead and add native names in Chhoti Anandi, 21 Sarfarosh - Saragarhi 1897 and Swami Ramdev - Ek Sangharsh.TryKid (talk) 22:19, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- @TryKid: Respectfully, I'm going to bow out of this discussion, as I could go either way on this issue. Noah Kastin (talk) (🖋) 23:02, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
- I saw TryKid's note on my talk page and I also got a ping here, so I'll reply here. According to WP:NOINDICSCRIPT there have been numerous discussions about the use of Indic scripts in general, and this RfC from about a year ago seemed to decide that we should exclude all Indic scripts from infoboxes. To address AussieLegend's comment about
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2405:204:E489:2CB8:5A7:95B9:1D10:741F (talk) 11:50, 22 May 2018 (UTC) hello team, i am Rajpal and i have selected for naagin -3 and i play role of dhruv. thats why i want to add my name on this page. thanks. my contact email id is - (Redacted)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —KuyaBriBriTalk 13:58, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Ratings
Hi Noormohammed satya, re: these changes, the BARC site only tracks information for the current week, which makes it impossible to verify any changes later on. Thus, the section will always fail WP:V. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:31, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Bizarre editing that's led to recent page protection.
@FARAAZ.ALI.FAIZ: In these changes, why are you use braces {} all over the place as punctuation? That is never done in proper English sentence structure. Even if you were to more correctly use parentheses (), we can't have giant blocks of text full of parentheticals. That just so sloppy. Parentheticals are supposed to represent whispers of information directed at the reader, like "Kumar appeared in the second season of Bigg Boss (2008)." But if you're describing major characteristics about someone, you're simply not going to be whispering that. In many of the changes you made, a simple comma would have solved the problem, since you apparently didn't like the dashes. For example: Mazher Sayed (Season 1) as Suri {Shivanya's parents' murderer.} vs. Mazher Sayed (Season 1) as Suri, Shivanya's parents' murderer. The comma I added after Suri turns the statement into a properly constructed sentence.
It's also unclear to me why you're using the supremely obnoxious spelling of Ichchhadhaari vs. the less complicated Icchadhari, the latter of which seems more pronounceable by English-speaking readers. Since these are transliterations, there is some flexibility in how we present that content, but presenting it with weird consonant clusters like "chchh", which looks like it wants to be pronounced as two syllables, just creates confusion. Other bizarre changes: Why are you spelling Vikraant's name with two As? Where is that officially indicated as the preference for the character? Or for Rehaan, or for Yuvraaj or for Maahir or for Suhaani? Without references of any kind or explanations of any kind, this just seems like a personal artistic choice that you keep forcing into the article. I see numerous sources that prefer a single A spelling for Vikrant.[1][2][3][4][5][6]. Your explanations are appreciated here. Thank you, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:57, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
- I have fixed the braces issue in these edits. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:17, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
- If such is the case, I really appreciate your 'fuss' over the spelling of the transliteration 'Ichhadhari'. The way I spell it, is not at all 'supremely obnoxious', but directs the reader to understand how would he/ she pronounce it, had it been written in Hindi. As for the extra A's, they signify the transliteration of the Hindu names, as they are written in Hindi. Lastly, I would refrain from using '{' and '}' because addition of a comma seems to be more appropriate. FARAAZ.ALI.FAIZ (talk) 17:27, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
Naagin (season-3) redirect removed
Per a user's help request, I have removed the redirect. I am not endorsing the material that the user may end up putting there, but rather giving them the opportunity to contribute to the encyclopedia. StrikerforceTalk 15:58, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
As on this wiki, my edit was reverted I would like to apologise for not following the consenus of this talk page. I was mearly follwing the example of the Simple English wiki version from which this was translated by myself PoliceSheep99 (talk) 16:20, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Prince Narula
@FARAAZ.ALI.FAIZ: Hi there, in this edit you restored Prince Narula to the cast list. In this version of the article's lead, we say that Narula has a cameo role. Cameo roles are not particularly noteworthy, although guest star roles might be. I see that you put him in the Recurring cast section. Does his character appear somewhat regularly? Thank you, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:19, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, his character has been in the show for over four episodes. So, that's more than a cameo. FARAAZ.ALI.FAIZ (talk) 17:10, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
- @FARAAZ.ALI.FAIZ: Great, thank you for responding. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:30, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Requested move 26 September 2018
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The result of the move request was: Moved as per IJBall's last proposal. Other redirects can be created as appropriate. — Amakuru (talk) 20:25, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
– The 2015 Indian TV series article needs to be moved for necessary disambiguation from the 2017 Pakistani TV series article – as per WP:INCDAB, Naagin (TV series) needs to be redirected to Nagin. In addition, the article for the 2017 Pakistani TV series is just incorrectly disambiguated under WP:NCTV no matter how you slice it, so it needs to be moved. Note: The article Naaginn also exists – I'm leaving that one out of this RM proposal, as per WP:SMALLDETAILS, but that one arguably should be disambiguated as well. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:18, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- Support - This all seems reasonable. --AussieLegend (✉) 17:24, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- Support but to Naagin (2015 Indian TV series) and move Naaginn to Naaginn (2007 Indian TV series) as नागिन is the same title and per WP:SMALLDETAILS is not consistently or significantly distinguished in third party WP:RS. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:47, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- Unnecessary "double disambiguation" – the correct proposal for that would be Naagin (2015 TV series) and Naaginn (2007 TV series), while leaving the Naagin (Pakistani TV series) proposal as is. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:28, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- fine but create redirects for the double disambiguation to aid search engines. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:34, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- Unnecessary "double disambiguation" – the correct proposal for that would be Naagin (2015 TV series) and Naaginn (2007 TV series), while leaving the Naagin (Pakistani TV series) proposal as is. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:28, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- Certainly – of course. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 12:20, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- Support Per WP:PDAB. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:49, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- Support - including the Naaginn move. Double disambiguate or year, both are fine by me. --Gonnym (talk) 19:22, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- Support Ravensfire (talk) 02:43, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- To focus this, I'm going change to support:
- ...in addition to still supporting Naagin (Geo Kahani) → Naagin (Pakistani TV series). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 22:40, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Misuse of italics and quotation marks
In these edits[7][8] I removed a great deal of erroneously used italics and quotation marks. It was unclear why we had quotes around words like "king" and "prince". We don't normally wrap quotes around these words in English, and the use of the quotes just looks like we're being sarcastic. (See scare quotes.) Most of the quotes seemed arbitrary and incorrectly applied, so I removed them. There were some instances, like with Shivanya Singh "Suryavanshi" where it was unclear what was being expressed. Typically if you see a name with another name in quotes, it would suggest that it's a nickname, like English musician Ian Fraser "Lemmy" Kilmister. In this case I put the Suryavanshi between the Shivanya and Singh (as is typical for how we deal with nicknames) but it's not clear if that was the right thing to do in this particular case. What would really help is some further clarification in prose. If Suryavanshi is the name of a clan or something, then maybe the character should be indicated as Shivanya Singh, head of the Suryavanshi clan. But I don't know what the correct thing to do is, since I don't know anything about this series. Please avoid using bolded or italicised text arbitrarily. Neither should be used for emphasis. Though we normally use italics for non-English words, we're so heavily into in-universe descriptions, that I don't think we need them. It's no different than a show like The Transformers using made-up words like Cybertron or Decepticon and even using Latin words like Optimus. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:53, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- @ Cyphoidbomb : To explain the edits in article Naagin series, fistly Suryavanshi is a title signifying the clan of the character and not in his/her official name but often used after the surname "Singh". Also only the words of Indian/Hindi origin are qouted especially those which indicate a post e.g. "Takshak-Raj" indicates the post of the king of Takshak clan and used as a referral like one uses 'King' in King Philips say, and so Takshak-Raaj is not a nickname and to be used before the name Rocky, also since it's a post in Indian language it is quoted. Also the quoting of posts King and Prince aren't for sarcasm but to indicate the posts are not official but widely regarded by the subjects of that very King/Prince. Also Italics have only be used for Naagin which is an Indian word and not English like squirrel that it can be freely written (also haven't used quotation here not to confuse between a bestowed post like Naag-Rani and an identity like Naagin). Am I able to make it cleare to you? Was that sensible? Please reply since if I was able to make you understand I would like for you to undo your recent edits on the article. Thanking You, PentaETAD (talk) 17:53, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- (Note: the comment from PentaETAD above was originally posted on my talk page here, and its possible they didn't see my notes above before they left the comment. I pasted the note above because this was the best place to have the conversation.) @PentaETAD: Per my note above, italics aren't really warranted for naagin in this case, because we're so heavily describing in-universe content. The article would be needlessly burdened with italics if we were to italicise every non-English word. Similarly, the quotations are being widely misused. If a character is considered a king, then just call him a king. If he's not really a king, but everybody treats him like one, then maybe you need a different phrasing like "the de facto king of the ___ clan" or "acting king of ___". You do that once in their character description, then just refer to them by name. With something like Takshak-Raj, if that's not a nickname, but a title, then we need to be clearer about that. I'm going to make the change to "Rocky Singh, the Takshak-Raj (literally: king of the Takshak clan)". Remember that we are writing to a global English-speaking audience, not to Hindi-speakers, so clarity is important, and we are allowed to use complete sentences to communicate. I'm not sure what phrasing to use for Suryavanshi, but consider a phrasing like "Sivanya Singh, member of the Suryavanshi clan" or whatever their position/status/title is in that context. Just please avoid the use of quotation marks, italics and unnecessary parentheticals. Thank you, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:13, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Is using quotations for post that bad, I mean it's mostly applicable here so if we won't use them here for obvious titles, bestowed upon posts (of the real world or fictional) or a pseudonym (i.e. false identity), then where are we supposed to use them? Also, I totally agree with your reasoning for "Rocky Singh, the Takshak-Raj (literally: king of the Takshak clan)" and also seem to understand the Kin/ Prince. But I want to make one thing clear here the characters Ritik, Sangram, Yamini were shown as Prince, King and Princess repectively in flashbacks of Season 1, meaning they were rather the official ones, but in the past and as time moved on, they possibly dropped those royal titles with the declining monarchy/Zamindari; but again if we think from a logical point of view then the story is definitely based in the 21st century or in a broader sense in post-independence India, where the rule of govt. is applicable and titles of King etc. are just for name-sake. So, I felt like it was best to use King, Prince etc. in quotations. Also for Suryavanshi it's the title for the clan that was used after Singh as a part of the surname by the ancestors, but was implied to be dropped by the successors, though it is quite possible that by the end of season 1, when the lead Ritik discovers his true lineage he takes up Suryavanshi after Singh in his name again and hence his wife and daughter will also use Singh Suryavanshi in the surname. So if we don't quote Suryavanshi it is, I feel, definitely a part of the title, since the rival clan used the analogous word "Mahismati" as an official surname. Got the whole thing? PentaETAD (talk) 18:32, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- @ Cyphoidbomb (talk) : In the edit you have marked Cyphoidbomb I have used quotation marks for obvious positions (termed in Hindi). I f I am not using the quotation, won't it be confusing for the non-Indian readers who can't really make (I guess!) whether Naag-Rani or Naag-Pandit etc. is a part of the name or just a title, position etc. I guess Indian positions like that shouldn't be used in a similar manner like a name, official surname, title given, position, indianized job (as for example mantri for minister, pandit for a learned one, ved for doctor or Ayurvedic practitioneretc.) Also, the characters I mentioned are known by their positions and are not given any names in the show, so won't it sound like a character's name to a non-Hindi speaker while in actual it is not? I hope I was able to explain. Torterra Ketchum 5999 (talk) 18:48, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Torterra Ketchum 5999: The quotations don't explain anything. An English-only speaker is going to see those words and know that they don't recognise them. There's no need to decorate them with quote marks. If we are using non-English words, we should be sure to define them the first time we use them, like: "...and went to stay in protection of the Naag-Pandit (translation: the wise naag.)" or "...and went to stay in protection of the Naag-Pandit (literally: the wise serpent). You don't need quote marks in either of those scenarios. Frankly, I don't think you even need dashes between Naag and Pandit either, and I don't see why it should be capitalised since it's not a proper noun like a name, location or book title. But maybe we address one thing at a time. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:04, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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Detected the vandalism by the user 'Balaji rajak'
The user Balaji rajak continuously making false edits, replaced the character 'Rudra' played by 'Kinshuk Mahajan' in season 2 and repeatedly adding false information about a made up character named 'Karan' played by a made up actor named 'Raj Routh'. Bakwas Drama (talk) 09:10, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
Real esate
@Bakwas Drama: I'm not sure if I consider the bulk of this to be an improvement. We went from a somewhat bloated table to a pretty massive sprawl of information. Am I imagining that? Why isn't the entire list done in simpler bullet format?
- Naag - a male serpent
- Naagin - a female serpent
- Mahanaagrani - the serpent queen
- Been - a type of wooden instrument played by charmers to control snakes. If naag and naagin hear the song, they will go crazy and be forced to show their true form.
Why do we need subheadings? It all just seems to take up too much space. I'm also unclear on your strange assertion about capitalising nouns. We don't capitalise nouns in English, we capitalise proper nouns. And translations are not beholden to these rules. For instance, a film might be titled Prem Ratan Dhan Payo, but the translation of the title would correctly be written "I found a treasure called love". Another example, "Boris Johnson is the prime minister of England" is correct. But we would call him "Prime Minister Boris Johnson" because in the latter construction, Prime Minister becomes his title, a proper noun. Similarly, if we are talking about a race of naag, then we would describe them as Naag, but generally we would describe them as naag, as it is not a proper noun. When we talk about dragons or jinn or goblins or giants or ghosts or snakes or elephants we don't capitalise any of them, since they are common nouns. So Mahanaagrani means "queen of serpents" (not capitalised). So, all in all, I think this content needs heavy review for proper English usage. I don't care if you want to take the reins on how this content is built, (I have no interest in the series) but it has to be built with some kind of coherent structure, adherence to English, and some goal of simplicity and ease of reading. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:09, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Bakwas Drama: Re: these changes, it may surprise you, but discussion is actually part of this community project. While I appreciate that you've tried to simplify some changes, leaving behind toothless declarations like the following have no impact on what other editors might choose to do:
- "These words must be capitalised like the way they were officially used in the series, on television, promotions and newspapers by the show makers as nouns, and must not be written directly in English to avoid misunderstanding or confusion (This only applies for these special words in the series and have nothing to do with proper nouns or adherence to English)"
- Your vision for what the article content should look like currently has no consensus and you don't get to unilaterally decide what capitalisation is appropriate or not. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:50, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
@Cyphoidbomb: I've not decided anything, what change people decide to make is up to them, this is an open encyclopedia, that note is a short message for new registered members as they don't know about the talk page and who didn't follow the series to know how things worked on the series. I stay true to what the makers delivered as they capitalised those words because they wanted to avoid misunderstanding and confusing for audiences. The purpose of an encyclopedia is archived the truth, not to change the truth to fit into the rule. There are some exceptional cases when the rule should not apply as they bend the truth. Moderator and administrator have authority to make things fit in the rules, but they should be flexible to recognise when a rule doesn't fit the truth, make exceptional changes for the better, that proved they are human, not a robot. Bakwas Drama (talk) 08:44, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Bakwas Drama: Uh, how does not observing normal standards of English make the encyclopedia better? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:43, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Honestly, those sections (translations and special terms) look just utter junk. They are terrible. This is the English Wikipedia, the English terms/translations should be used in the article text (optionally with the Hindi term in parantheses after) adn the "special terms" spelled out as warranted in the actual plot description. As it is, this article looks terrible. I'm inclined to revert back to a version 7+ days ago before these massive and just terrible edits were made. Ravensfire (talk) 16:01, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
Pseudoheadings in infobox
The pseudoheadings that were added into the infobox somewhere in this batch of edits are not consistent with Template:Infobox television guidelines or with normal community standards. There are innumerable series that have spanned multiple seasons and in none of them do we break down acting credits, writing credits, directorial credits in the infobox by season. If relevant, that content should be included in prose elsewhere in the article. I strongly recommend that anyone editing the infobox quickly read up on what our community standards are. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:41, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Problem solved. Bakwas Drama (talk) 07:03, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Bakwas Drama: Not solved. Did you read the instructions for
|writer=
, for instance? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 08:09, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
Guests for celebration of 31st December 2018
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Arjun Bijlani as Deepraj Singh from the series Ishq Mein Marjawan 203.110.242.7 (talk) 13:25, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Melmann 14:49, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
None of the ratings content can be verified
Due to the ingeniously un-useful way that BARC has designed their website, only making the current week's ratings content available and all other weeks unavailable, how do we propose to bring the ratings content into conformity with WP:V, which says that all content must be verifiable? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:31, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
Removal without discussion
@Bakwas Drama:, the General concept section you re-added here was removed by Ravensfire with a justification. When content you submit is reverted, your recourse is to seek consensus for inclusion via discussion, not to silently (or otherwise) restore the content, as this would constitute edit-warring. I'd recommend you start the discussion below, and note that you do not presently have consensus for the section you added. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:08, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Copy edit of article
@Bakwas Drama and 2409:4055:29f:e5df::2e2:60a1: Hi! I noticed that there has been a lot of back-and-forth reverting of the article since my copyedit of the plot section (permalink). I can't speak to the other changes which followed, but my copy edit was in line with MOS:TVPLOT recommendations to keep plot summaries concise. Describing the plot in too much detail can make it a derivative work and raise copyright issues, and is incompatible with Wikipedia policy. It should be an encyclopaedic summary, and should serve to give context for other sections of the article (e.g.: development, writing, themes, production, etc.). Rather than reverting back and forth (which is known as edit warring), please discuss here why you think edits are an improvement or not. Thanks. – Reidgreg (talk) 15:35, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 1 August 2020
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i suggest to edit the plot and add episode by episode summary seperately 45.126.145.5 (talk) 14:29, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
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Please edit or let me edit the plot and add an episode by episode summary 45.126.145.5 (talk) 14:34, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
- Hi there, please don't post multiple requests on the same issue. If you want to create a list of episodes, my recommendation is to create an account, which will allow you to use a sandbox to build the content. You should also read the relevant guidelines at MOS:TV. You should also look at a quality article like Seinfeld (season 2) so you can see how to properly format the content and what level of detail should be included. Typically we should be keeping plot summaries under 100 words. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:18, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
Heading of this article
Can we use Naagin ( TV series ) instead of Naagin (2015 TV series) ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kumarayush2104 (talk • contribs) 05:28, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Kumarayush2104: Unfortunately we can't because there is also Naaginn (2007 TV series) Darth Flappy «Talk» 14:59, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for clarification Ayush Kumar 07:47, 15 August 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kumarayush2104 (talk • contribs)
Ratings references
@Unknownnreasonn: Hi there, re: this edit, while well-meaning, you do know that http://www.barcindia.co.in/statistic.aspx as a reference, hidden or otherwise, is ultimately useless, right? The figures can only be verified the week they are added. If, in a month, someone wants to check those figures, they won't be able to find them. Since content at Wikipedia requires verifiability, do you have another idea for how this information can be supported? Otherwise the entire table is potentially subject to deletion. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:00, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: when I'm adding this content
- I'm finding also good reference that is not available that time. If I add content without a reference you guys keep posting why information is not verified? So,I add BARC reference,I also know that BARC reference is useless So what do i do then if I add don't add any references. Now I'm going to change the previous reference with good reference. Now I think you have to not delete the table. Unknownnreasonn (talk) 08:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Unknownnreasonn: If the content can't be verified, it is useless. A vandal could come by and change every single one of those figures, and nobody would ever be able to prove whether they are accurate or not. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:47, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Requesting semi protected edit
Hi there, kindly accept my request to edit the page as there are many wrong details,spelling and grammatical errors and is un updated. please accept my request for edit or you kindly fix them Regards. Saihere123554 (talk) 18:17, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Saihere123554: You have already made this request, and it has been answered. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:19, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Requesting semi protected edit
Hi there, kindly accept my request to edit the page as there are many wrong details,spelling and grammatical errors and is unupdated. please accept my request for edit or you kindly fix them Regards. Saihere123554 (talk) 18:14, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: requests for decreases to the page protection level should be directed to the protecting admin or to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection if the protecting admin is not active or has declined the request. Dylsss (talk) 18:16, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi,there I am sure that I won't spread any false info..kindly please accept my request for an edit..or can you please update them??..but anyway thanks for responding me Regards Saihere123554 (talk) 18:29, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- If you say what specific change(s) you want to make, I or another editor can implement them for you. Simply say what you want to change in a "change x to y" format. Dylsss (talk) 18:36, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi there..thank you for your positive reply..if you don't mind may I know why can't o edit? It would be great if you inform me about the same... I feel The trps of the second third and fourth season were not accurate as the trp points and the position doesn't match... kindly look into it...if that's correct, please provide me the source for the same... And the trp of the fifth season is not updated...the admin is not updating the same and blocking or denying others to edit the same...kindly look into it...thanks in advance Regards Saihere123554 (talk) 10:19, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- The article is protected because there are many editors who refuse to adhere to community guidelines for how an article should look, and instead want to cater it to some ignorantly-assembled, sloppy version that doesn't help readers who are interested in studying Indian television. The entire cast section, for instance, is an inconsistent mess of content that is not in line with WP:TVCAST. As for the TRPs, as I noted two sections above in Ratings references, the BARC source only provides the current week's ratings information, so historical data can't be verified unless an archive exists of that week's date, for example at Archive.org's Wayback Machine. As for the 5th season data, Wikipedia is a volunteer project, so if nobody has volunteered to add that data, it doesn't get added. But since reliable data is difficult to find, it wouldn't be an easy job to build out that section. If you want to give it a try, read our reliable sourcing guidelines and when your account becomes autoconfirmed, you will be able to edit the article. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 12:02, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Ok thank you so much...but as you see I could find some trp list of the third season...if I find Wikipedia's source is wrong am I allowed to edit?please let me know the same Regards.. Saihere123554 (talk) 17:04, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
- It depends. Some of the content in the 3rd season is sourced. Just because you happen to find a source that might say that the number was higher or lower doesn't mean that the data is more accurate. We would also have to discuss the quality of the reference, since if the content came from someone's blog, that wouldn't be sufficient per WP:UGC. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:11, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Fine let me check twice and come to an end...thank you Saihere123554 (talk) 17:55, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 7 December 2020
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Please change the line of marriage.They are in a live in relationship.Against the contemporary way of marrying in an auspicious place preferably a mandap or mandir,they were in an unknown hall with no one in presence.They circled under the Chandlier debris which cannot be considered as marriage.Veer put his own blood and a silver chain.This is not happening.Any other Serial is not mad who takes so much plots to make a marriage function like haldi, mehndi which shows the aan baan and shaan of a relationship.After being jealous of Jay,he brings the sindoor and wear it just like a normal thing.So they are not married.Such twists are given to increase trp Nothing more.Naagin series' should not change the values, custom not traditions.They are to be abided the way normal serials work. Madening (talk) 05:51, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Yes... Madening (talk) 05:51, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
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Jennifer Mistry Bansiwal as Ramya Mathur
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180.151.144.158 (talk) 06:52, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2021
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183.87.207.193 (talk) 14:36, 22 May 2021 (UTC) shravani aka bela, mahir, vishakha and brinda , dev
are alive
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Stop vandalism
Vandalism should be stopped to make you stay here and notbeing blocked 41.190.245.2 (talk) 13:03, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
Nagin 6
Pratha is shesh nagin not mehkh please take a look at the plot of season 6 72.255.34.22 (talk) 05:15, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 28 March 2022
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I want to edit Naagin (2015 TV Series), to help cleanup most of it, and add updates do the weekend episodes please, thank you! MoosaDara (talk) 15:35, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
Bani is not married to Veer.They were in a live in relationship.Veer used these sacred material Like Mangalsutra and sindoor to not go near Jay Madhur and stop her at his room and mansion.
There' was only a silver chain at the first day that he comes there.Then after so many episodes, suddenly out of nowhere, Veer makes Bani wear the Mangalsutra and sindoor at night.She is still Bani Sharma.
If Veer really liked, he would have proposed her and did a proper marriage because her family members were also there at the mansion but Veer kept her as a keeper.And no mahila morcha or people in that area protested.Maybe These people were hypnotised and no one asked how the marriage rook place. Smoothridegoals (talk) 11:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
Bani is a keeper of Veer Singhania
Bani is not married to Veer.They were in a live in relationship.Veer used these sacred material Like Mangalsutra and sindoor to not go near Jay Madhur and stop her at his room and mansion.
There' was only a silver chain at the first day that he comes there.Then after so many episodes, suddenly out of nowhere, Veer makes Bani wear the Mangalsutra and sindoor at night.She is still Bani Sharma.
If Veer really liked, he would have proposed her and did a proper marriage because her family members were also there at the mansion but Veer kept her as a keeper.And no mahila morcha or people in that area protested.Maybe These people were hypnotised and no one asked how the marriage rook place. Smoothridegoals (talk) 11:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2022
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The cast of season 5 is written as Bani Sharma as the wife of Veeranshu when the truth is, it was only a live in relationship. Jay Madhur was not tricking Bani when he reminded her to complete her revenge. In many episodes( not written in written update), there is no sign of marriage being done like vermilion and a nupital chain. In the episode of October 10 2020, we can see her not having vermilion and a nupital chain in the neck or forehead. Later, the makers release an update video saying she is Veer Singhania when there was no proper marriage. If it was a proper marriage, the pandit would say the marriage is complete not that she is his captive for the life[1]. There was no pandit. There were rounds but without proper ornaments from the temple which is blessed and prayed, it is not complete. There was also no tieing the knot ceremony done by bride or groom's parents because none of her family memebers were present to take blessings after marriage.
The written update on 19th September 2020 clearly states there was no marriage. In place of vermlion, there is a black tilak and in place of nupital chain, there is a silver chain.
Out of nowhere, in October 10 2020 episode, Veer uses vermilion and a nupital chain so that he can stop her from going to Jay Madhur again which ofcourse doesn't work. Because until the episode of the entry and play of Farishta, she still goes to Jay Madhur for help. So she is just a keeper of Veer who is obsessed with her no matter what. Smoothridegoals (talk) 05:45, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
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References
Merger Proposal
@ManaliJain, Venkat TL, Sid95Q, Ravensfire, Shinnosuke15, C1K98V, Hemantha, and Arjayay: I propose that Naagin 6 should be merged to Naagin (2015 TV series) as I found it irrelevant for having a separate article for this particular season when no separate articles exists for all 5 previous seasons as well as spinoff season. I think the content in Naagin 6 can easily be explained in the context of Naagin (2015 TV series), and a merger would not cause any article-size or weighting problems in Naagin (2015 TV series).Pri2000 (talk) 20:10, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Merge yes. Articles like this, that were created by socks can even be deleted. Venkat TL (talk) 07:55, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Merge or Delete User:Pri2000 Glad you picked it. I look at both the pages, I don't think separate page is required. Also just extra section present is production, but the main article doesn't list the production information for any of the previous seasons. So if the community feel production section is not required so either merge or delete. Rest all the information is available on both the articles. Thanks C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 12:56, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Merge: The page can be merged, but I suggest that after merge, this page should be moved to Naagin (Indian TV series) as it has different seasons released in different years. Btw Pri2000, I'm Shinnosuke15, my username has been changed. DoraShin15, 18:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to Naagin (Indian TV series). ManaliJain (talk) 03:53, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Requested move on 14 July 2022
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Seems to come down to personal preferences. One side agreed with the nom in not liking to disambiguate long-running series by first airing year, while the other side didn't find anything wrong and also wished to disambiguate against Naaginn (2007 TV series). (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 03:41, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
Naagin (2015 TV series) → Naagin (Indian TV series) – The series is no longer a 2015 TV series as it launched 6 seasons and 1 spin-off season since then. So I suggest it should be titled as Naagin (Indian TV series) instead of Naagin (2015 TV series) Pri2000 (talk) 10:04, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- I fixed the malformed request at 02:21 UTC, July 15. Regards, —usernamekiran (talk) 02:41, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Move as per nominator. DoraShin15, 10:29, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Move cannot see why anyone will object to this straightforward request. Venkat TL (talk) 10:57, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Move: yes, you can go ahead. ManaliJain (talk) 12:24, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Move as per nomination. Thanks --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 12:54, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose for the reasons I gave at WP:RMT; per WP:NCTV the date in parenthesis only indicates premiere date, not the total run. So the current title isn't wrong in that regard. Additionally, I feel that the decision to disambiguate from the similarly named Naaginn (2007 TV series) remains valid. --Pokelova (talk) 12:55, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- oppose per WP:NCTVUK, as current title is WP:consistent with "Naaginn (2007 TV series)", Celia (2015 TV series), The Comedians (2015 TV series), Connected (2015 TV series), Empire (2015 TV series), The Odd Couple (2015 TV series) and many others. Most of these are multi season/year series. Changing the title of a TV series "because it has been running for more than an year" is not a valid argument. Also per Pokelova. —usernamekiran (talk) 14:09, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2022
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change intrest to interest Polygnotus (talk) 08:07, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- Done Next time, mention the sections and sub-sections of where the edit is to be made to make it easier for editors. EnIRtpf09bchat with me 10:32, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2023
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Executive producers Shailesh sharma Samar thakur Amit 2405:201:5:28D1:FD57:FB71:D9B2:E531 (talk) 20:21, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
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S6
Dibt change the main cast of S6 Harishseelan (talk) 08:41, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
Plot
Where is the plot? 41.115.31.116 (talk) 19:44, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
People ask the plot ...and that's y I'm edit it...since it's first season there has plot..suddenly u just erase it..what helll u do Harishseelan (talk) 19:09, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request urgent
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Executive producers - nilesh mishra and shailesh sharma Vek87937 (talk) 11:47, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
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- @Vek87937, please add a reliable source that supports them as executive producers. Ravensfire (talk) 04:52, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Vaishnavi Ganatra as Tina, Prathna’s sister
Add content to recurring cast
http://www.tellychakkar.com/tv/tv-news/exclusive-vaishnavi-ganatra-roped-naagin-6-230310 115.98.235.157 (talk) 04:53, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Naagin Season 6 42.106.37.205 (talk) 07:56, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Rohanmurali pl help on this update on page 42.106.36.201 (talk) 11:59, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Yuugone
- pl help to update Vaishnavi Ganatra instead of *Vaishnavi Ganatra as she has Wikipedia Page
- Will appreciate if you can do the needfull to edit 42.106.36.201 (talk) 15:01, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Linked Yuugone (talk) 15:09, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Yuugone Thank you :) 42.106.14.173 (talk) 15:17, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Linked Yuugone (talk) 15:09, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Aarohi M Kumawat as Purvika Ahlawat
Prathna and Raghuveer's eldest daughter,Meher's twin sister,Trisha's adoptive daughter 2402:3A80:1F69:5AE7:4031:7A0F:B37F:D660 (talk) 15:14, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
Please update episodes and Rewrite Naina To Laddoo/Naina
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Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2023
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I would like to revert it back to it's original part with the plot Ghostface1929 (talk) 21:02, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
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119.156.25.250 (talk) 15:51, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2023
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119.156.25.250 (talk) 09:25, 7 May 2023 (UTC) Please rewrite Swarna Is Former Naagin and Series Overview and some u write
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Semi-protected edit request on 10 July 2023
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119.156.25.250 (talk) 15:16, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 4 August 2023
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Please change the third bullet point (Main character) of Season 6 from "Prathna Raghuveer Ahlawat nèe Gujral/Preeti Raghuveer Ahlawat: ..." to "Prathna Raghuveer Ahlawat née Gujral/Preeti Raghuveer Ahlawat: ...", thereby correcting the diacritic e acute from nèe to née, the standard English spelling. 31.112.76.80 (talk) 01:53, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- Done, thanks. Switched to {{nee}} too. —PlanetJuice (talk • contribs) 04:04, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 27 September 2023
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I request that the Naagin (2015 TV Series) to be unprotected because , some of us cannot see and read the plot of the series due to the protection. Bubleeyyy (talk) 11:48, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: There's no plot section in this article. Ajeeb Prani (talk) 11:58, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Plot
Why there is no plot for the Basant Panchami Special and the Season 6? 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 04:41, 11 December 2023 (UTC)