Talk:Murder of Sigrid Giskegjerde Schjetne

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The sections "Murder?", and "Case is still going on" are out of date, and totally incorrect. The case is concluded with a verdict of guilty of kidnapping and murder but insane. He was sentenced to compulsory psychiatric. He has exhausted all appeals.

I leave them here because I believe that is Wikipedia policy. Nick Beeson (talk) 19:13, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Murder?

There is currently no evidence that Schjetne was murdered. That requires proof of malice aforethought. It may be that she was the victim of manslaughter or another form of homicide. Murder is only established after an appropriate trial. Until that time, any claim of murder is premature and breaches the rights of the alleged perpetrators. WWGB (talk) 13:13, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Right. The case is referred to as "drap" in Norwegian media, a word that can mean both murder and manslaughter. iselilja (talk) 13:37, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How about this, "Slik saken til nå er opplyst finner retten det mest sannsynlig at Sigrid Giskegjerde Schjetne ble utsatt for et forsettlig drap"^[1] According to a statement of Oslo district court, isn't that enough at least to say that she had been murdered, if not who did it. Roghue 20:28, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

According to a rough machine translation, doesn't that only say "likely"? WWGB (talk) 23:22, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Correct. __meco (talk) 10:16, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://www.dagbladet.no/2012/09/06/nyheter/sigrid-saken/sigrid_giskegjerde_schjetne/23284341/. {{cite news}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

Case is still going on

Ok according to the news the case is still going on. the suspect's attorney said He (the suspect) is declining that he killed Sigrid

Missing White Woman Syndrome link

Is there any justification for the link? The article doesn't refer to it having been part of the case or public response. I'm all for calling it out when it's obvious, but in this situation I'm not sure what it has to do with Schjetne's case in particular. The Faiza Case also linked is an example of a non-European woman's murder making headlines. Could someone add something relevant to the Schjetne article if it contrasts with the coverage of the Faiza Case? For the moment I'm giving the benefit of the doubt and leaving the link in. LS1979 (talk) 12:57, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the 'Missing White Woman Syndrome' There is very little basis for it. The only time it was alluded to in the press was the family of a missing asylum-seeker who publicly questioned why the search effort was so small in comparison, as well as why the media coverage of the Sigrid-case was so much more extensive, and they indirectly speculate that it is because he was "a foreigner".^[1] I included the link due to this, however i agree that is has little relevance. As for the Faiza-case i included it along with the Baneheia murders due to the similarities, abducted missing female(s), later found dead causing media sensation.--Roghue (talk) 16:30, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this, Roghue. It might be worth putting something in the article, as it's probably worth a mention in the context, given the enormous public response. LS1979 (talk) 18:33, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://www.varden.no/nyheter/hvorfor-lette-de-sa-lite-etter-ali-1.790693. Retrieved 27 September 2014. {{cite news}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

Sentence Removed

I removed, "The police declined to charge him with any crime," which immediately follows this sentence, "the prosecution formally charged Giske with second-degree murder...", because it is confusing to native English speakers, since most of them live in Common Law jurisdictions, in which the police do not charge criminals. I do not actually understand these two sentences, except to suppose that Norwegian law allows both the police and the prosecutor to independently decide to "formally charge" a person with a crime. Nick Beeson (talk) 18:46, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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