Talk:Mullazai, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa

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Mullazai has no Baloach Population

Mullazai is a village from districtTank District of Khyber PakhtunkhwaProvince of Pakistan. Please visit Google Maps for its verificaiton. http://maps.google.com/maps/place?ftid=0x3927d7e85509b3d9:0xff4c8d63623d6888&q=mullazai&hl=en&ved=0CAwQ-gswAA&sa=X&ei=39_IUOucJ8ODtQas74HICA (talk) UTC

Thanks for that, I was very confused about how an article about a place outside of the Baloach area had previously so many references to it being Baloach. I wanted to remove the Baloach references, but needed someone with the know-how to confirm it. Glad it is cleared up, thank you. Pjposullivan (talk) 20:04, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Let us work together

AurangzebMarwat (talk) 19:41, 26 October 2009 (UTC) Let us work together for this article. This village is famous and important for its strategic position and cultural aspects.I have placed many relevant citations.We need your humble support for betterment of this article.thanks —Preceding AurangzebMarwat comment added by • contribs) 19:37, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Let us upgrade

For the year 2006-07, let us concentrate on upgrading the contents as decided: Wales to upgrade quality of Wiki. Thanks. --Bhadani 03:41, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mullazai is village in nwfp pakistan —Preceding unsigned comment added by AurangzebMarwat (talk • contribs) 17:33, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute / Citation Tag

I have marked the citation tag on various - almost all the claims made - at the articles. As the claims are non-linked, seems self-esteemed and just to fame Sarfaraz Khan Marwat (God knows well whi he is or was) the article is disputed too. So I have no qualm left before placing dispute tag too. Please provide the links and nuteeralise the article before removing any of the tags. Raheela Chaudhry (talk) 18:16, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reasonable Discussion

Alright, let's try and have a calm and reasonable discussion about this edit war. There is to be no name calling and no personal attacks. Comment only on the article, not on the other person. maybe we can accomplish something here. Nobody here is better or worse depending on who they are or where they live. This has to do solely with the article.

AurangzebMarwat: Please explain what you are trying to do with the article and what you have been doing. Please include diffs, which are links that show a particular edit. You can find them by going to the history of the article and pressing the "prev" button next to an edit. Then you can copy the URL of the page and post it here, like this: [1]
PakhtunZalmay: Please explain why you have a problem with AurangzebMarwat's edits and what you would like done instead. Please include diffs as well.

let's see if we can handle this peacefully. A little insignificant ^{Help, it's almost Halloween! AAH!} 16:47, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the family tree as the article is about the town, not a family. I have also removed the directory listing of people. Please do not list people in this article unless they meet Wikipedia's standard of notability - being notable locally doesn't count. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 16:56, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And I have no idea why a map is being used as a reference for many statements. Removed. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 17:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This whole thing's a mess. One of the users above complained that refs were being removed. On the contrary, I'm seeing a lot of excessive, repeating, badly done refs. All the refs need to be placed inside <ref> </ref> tags, then excessive spacing needs to be removed. That should make the article more readable, inside the edit box and out. Then we need to fix grammatical errors, punctuation, rephrasing, etc. I'll be logging off in a few minutes. Hope things don't go to hell in the meanwhile. A little insignificant ^{Help, it's almost Halloween! AAH!} 17:08, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I came to this page because of complaints, but I'm not sure what the complaints are. If someone could explain what the problems are that they have with this article I'd be grateful. I've removed the constant references to the map link - it should be present once and once only, in the external links. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:27, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, I did the same earlier but was reverted. To editors involved in the dispute: you now have a couple of uninvolved editors willing to help so it's best to come here and discuss rather than reverting without comment. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 17:35, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

People

The section currently headed "People" describes some customs and practices of this community, but gives no indication that they are different from the practices of the surrounding communities. If they are not different they should be described in an article about the wider communities. Any comments? DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:30, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agree —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.99.183.116 (talk) 17:47, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is there anybody who thinks that this section should be kept? DJ Clayworth (talk) 00:07, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Attention Please

{{editprotected}} It is humbly requested that article Notables portion and education portion should be broght back to its original position as it was done by user AurangzebMarwat. Land given to schools are donated by late Lt.Col Sarfaraz khan Marwat, i witness to this. He was member of Gen. Zia-ul-Haq cabinet known as Majlis-e-shoora thanks Newsfuse (talk)

This has been debated at great length. However it is not clear that Lt.Col Sarfaraz khan Marwat is actually notable. We can find no references to his having been a part of the Pakistani cabinet, and this has resulted in the article you link to being deleted. If you know of such a reference please link to it here. DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:55, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the freebase reference used earlier is not acceptable by wikipedia standards as freebase can be edited by anyone. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 19:14, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I've just realized that references #3 and #4 are links to the same url. And ref #5 is simply the homepage of the same website. Could an administrator fix this?

And a couple of other things I've noticed. The third sentence in the geography section needs a period, the second sentence in the same section is a fragment, the origin section has major punctuation problems, and the last three sections all need references. If these could all be taken care of, that would be great. I hate edit wars... A little insignificant ^{Help, it's almost Halloween! AAH!} 19:23, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Attention

{{editprotected}} http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=192140 This link is of daily news The News

has info about Mullazai in Tank article. kindly adjust this as reference to article

Thanks. Newsfuse (talk) 14:05, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the destruction of three houses is noteworthy under the circumstances. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:07, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. See WP:NOTNEWS and WP:RECENTISM. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 14:23, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

edit needed

{{editprotected}} postal code of Mullazai is 29440 you can find it in Tank section in following web link. http://www.enttwist.com/nwfp-peshawar-postal-code/ also from Pakistan] goverment postal web,u can check it in excel file http://www.ep.gov.pk/ Reference of Union council Mullazai which has offical number 40058 can be found in pdf at http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/fullMaps_Sa.nsf/luFullMap/9BDAA5A9CC120337C12575EC0026568A/$File/map.pdf?OpenElemen

source is http://www.reliefweb.int

thanks Newsfuse (talk) 19:55, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

update needed

{{editprotected}} postal code of Mullazai is 29440 you can find it in Tank section in following web link. http://www.enttwist.com/nwfp-peshawar-postal-code/ also from Pakistan] goverment postal web,u can check it in excel file http://www.ep.gov.pk/ Reference of Union council Mullazai which has offical number 40058 can be found in pdf at http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/fullMaps_Sa.nsf/luFullMap/9BDAA5A9CC120337C12575EC0026568A/$File/map.pdf?OpenElemen

source is http://www.reliefweb.int

thanks Newsfuse (talk) 15:22, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Editprotected

All edit protected requests have been denied. The page is locked for a reason. When requesting changes, these will have to have agreement BEFORE you make an edit request. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 15:25, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. The reason the page is locked is so the warring parties will discuss the problem on the talk page. It is not so the edit warring can continue with edit-protected requests, and it is not so the warring can resume the instant protection is lifted. Take some initiative here. A little insignificant ^{Bloated on candy} 17:34, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Un-Protection

Agreed Reference provided by user Newsfuse are in accordance.I have checked them thoroughly.Page must be un-protected.

thanks AurangzebMarwat (talk) 18:19, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For the last time, no! Not until you have discussed the problem with User:PakhtunZalmay! The whole reason the page is protected is so editing can stop and dispute resolution can begin! A little insignificant ^{Bloated on candy} 18:25, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed I totally agree with User:Newsfuse and User:AurangzebMarwat for un-protecting the article. But on an a condition that every edit would be made after being discussed here, atleast for two days (48 hours). PakhtunZalmay (talk) 15:59, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed I agree with user: PakhtunZalmay proposal for Mullazai un-ptrotection thanks AurangzebMarwat (talk) 18:31, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What changes do you intend to make if the article is unprotected? --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 19:08, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please present the specific edits you wish to make. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 22:05, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

refernces and citations are first prirorty to be improved and increased,that present on different reliable webs.thanks AurangzebMarwat (talk) 22:11, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't repeat yourself (or delete comments that have been replied to). I'm asking what exact references and citations you want to add. --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 22:16, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

postal code of Mullazai 29440

http://www.enttwist.com/nwfp-peshawar-postal-code/ also from Pakistan] goverment postal web,u can check it in excel file http://www.ep.gov.pk/ Reference of Union council Mullazai which has offical number 40058 can be found in pdf at http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/fullMaps_Sa.nsf/luFullMap/9BDAA5A9CC120337C12575EC0026568A/$File/map.pdf?OpenElemen

source is http://www.reliefweb.int

as previuosly mentioned by user: Newsfuse

Thanks AurangzebMarwat (talk) 22:26, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, what else do you want to add/change? --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 22:30, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Am gathering data and the whole article should be un-protected.am in correspondence with other reliable sources,like gov and autonomous sources,to help this out.

thanks AurangzebMarwat (talk) 22:33, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moreover,big problem is,our country is developing,most of the data/records are not in electronic media/internet.Since british Raaj.so its requested,it must be taken into account.and working on it..

thanks AurangzebMarwat (talk) 22:38, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help

uprotect this page pleaseRescue15 (talk) 01:03, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What changes do you want to make? --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 01:23, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lets work together

Lot of users abroad delet/remove or according to my opinion ruin articles,as they dont have priror knowldg or information about that.so all who are not from pakistan need to look into matter carefully,not for sake of earning good scores on wiki,all i want to say,make things betterMarwatTribe (talk)

Please give an example. Note that the changes by established editors followed Wikipedia guidelines and policies. Also, if you are 58.65.166.154 please read User_talk:58.65.166.154#Mullazai --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 13:41, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Protection Required

Dear Admin

Please protect this page from being edited. Article was previously recovered by MegaSloth but i have noticed that it has been badly edited again. This article is recovered to original form once again.Please protect this Article in its original form as mentioned in following logs.

 14:58, 3 February 2010 MegaSloth (talk | contribs) (5,407 bytes) (Reverted 1 edit by MegaSloth to an older version by MegaSloth

Thank you

Mullazai

Dear All,please do not ruin this article and do not make changes without prior references. I have recovered this topic to its orignal format. Please see histor for your refernce, how bad changes were made to this article. Mullazai topic is not related to Baluch or Baluchistan in any sense. I hope you people,specially Administrator will see in to this matter.

Thank you AurangzaibMarwat (talk) 10:21, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edited again?

Is it ok to edit this article again? As well as referencing, the grammar of the article needs to be improved. Pjposullivan (talk) 11:56, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ownership

Please can editors read the WP conduct policy on Ownership before reverting edits going all the way back to 2009, no-one owns this article and we are all trying to make it the best it can be. Pjposullivan (talk) 17:33, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]