Talk:Muhlenberg legend

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Section size for Muhlenberg legend (5 sections)
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(Top)	1,230	1,230
History	9,135	9,135
See also	205	205
References	28	28
External links	654	654
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The german version of this page calls him Muehlenberg. Which is correct Muhlenberg, Muehlenberg or perhaps Mühlenberg!? --Camaeron (talk) 19:39, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed the German version to Muhlenberg-Legende. --VirtualDelight (talk) 21:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, you're just as bad as me. You have exactly the same username on both English and German wikipedia's! (only I have mine on the scottish one too!) --Camaeron (talk) 18:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

says who?

The page cites no sources to back up any of its statements. How do we know whether the page itself isn't a urban legend wannabe itself?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.143.99.76 (talk) 14:29, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there are the three external links. —Tamfang (talk) 16:51, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

legend vs history

I don't understand what is the legend and what are the historical facts in this article, the distinction is not made. Was there ever a vote or not? --Lgriot (talk) 09:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Does my latest edit make the distinction clearer? —Tamfang (talk) 16:51, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Abstain, or deciding vote?

This petition was rejected by a 42 to 41 vote and Muhlenberg (of German descent himself, who had abstained from that particular vote) was later quoted as having said "the faster the Germans become Americans, the better it will be." It cannot be verified whether Muhlenberg cast the deciding vote.^[1]^[2]

The article contradicts itself, as the two sources contradict each other. He could not had casted the deciding vote if he abstained (no vote). A better statement would be that his abstention was a deciding factor. But even if he did not abstain, the vote would be a split vote (42-42), with the same outcome. As Speaker of the House he could have set the casting vote, if there was already a tie.

So, what did he really do? -geraki ^T_L 14:14, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I was just coming here to ask about this exact problem. It's been over three months since Geraki asked, is there ANYONE who can clarify this? --Khajidha (talk) 20:31, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Heath, Shirley Brice & Frederick Mandabach. Language Status Decisions and the Law in the United States, in Cobarrubias, Juan & Joshua A. Fishman, eds., Progress in Language Planning, p. 94 (1983)
^ Sick, Bastian (19 May 2004). German as the official language of the USA?, Spiegel Online (in English)

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Löher's book

Is History and Achievements of the Germans in America the title of an official English translation of Löher's book Geschichte und Zustände der Deutschen in Amerika? I'm asking because "Achievements" isn't really an accurate translation of "Zustände"; it should be "Conditions". --Niels Wrschowitz (talk) 22:57, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[1983art1-1] Heath, Shirley Brice & Frederick Mandabach. Language Status Decisions and the Law in the United States, in Cobarrubias, Juan & Joshua A. Fishman, eds., Progress in Language Planning, p. 94 (1983)

[sick-2] Sick, Bastian (19 May 2004). German as the official language of the USA?, Spiegel Online (in English)

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