Talk:Muhammad ibn Muhammad Tabrizi

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Did you know... that the earliest commentary on a part of Maimonides' transforming work of Jewish philosophy, The Guide for the Perplexed, was written by Muhammad ibn Muhammad Tabrizi, a Persian Muslim?

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Student?

"also where his student Abu Ishaq Tabrizi, known as Ghadanfar ["the lion"], composed a summary of Abu Sulayman al-Sijistani's Siwan al-hikmah (Vessel of Wisdom)". Seyyed Hossein Nasr (2006), Islamic philosophy from its origin to the present, p. 190 [[1]

Google finds al-Ghadanfar ("b. 629 or 630/1231") in the catalogue of Oriental works at Leiden University [2], p. 61, with two contributions to a manuscript: a catalogue of the works of al-Biruni; and an abstract of two earlier works on the Siwan al-Hikmah. Jheald (talk) 16:47, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Removed the term "Phuk nugget" from the opening sentence as it presumably vandalism.210.23.130.14 (talk) 05:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Time Period

The opening sentence says he was a 13th century Persian Muslim, ie he lived during the period 1201-1300. However later is goes on to say that the writings he was known for commenting on weren't translated until 1347, ie 14th century. Which is it? 210.23.130.14 (talk) 05:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Both are likely true; the two statements are not incompatible.

In an age when copying was by hand, it took time for texts to be disseminated and become known. And it was a major undertaking to translate them, by men who were also fulltime physicians and rabbis. If you look for example at Moses ibn Tibbon, he was translating works by Averroes that were already a hundred years old; by Avicenna already two hundred years old; and by al Farabi and al Razi over three hundred years old.

It took time for knowledge to cross languages, just as it again took centuries for translations to bridge the gap into Latin. Jheald (talk) 10:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]