Talk:Mudflow/Archives/2021/November

More common usage

I think that the disaster usage is more common...

Agree, thus I changed it back to the redirect. See also [1] - there are currently around 90 links here, and exactly one of it refers to the drink. andy 11:08, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Article needs more content

Can anyone (please) add material about historical mudslides, especially about catastrophic events involving mudslides? Thanks! --SciCorrector (talk) 14:55, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Well I'm not a regular editor but I added a link and a crappy text about an historical mudslide in Venezuela several years ago, I really hope you would be able to improve what I've done. Cheers.

MUDSLIDES

Mudslides are a serious problem among those people who live in areas with many large hills and mountains. Across the world, they have caused billions of dollars in damage and taken thousands of lives. A mudslide or debris flow, is a type of fast moving landslide. They usually start on steep hillsides as shallow landslides that liquefy and accelerate to speeds that are typically about 10 miles per hour, but can exceed 35 miles per hour. The deadly mudslide that caused a massive rockslide-debris avalanche, followed a ten-day period of heavy rains & a minor earthquake. The official death toll stands at 1,126.

The torrental rains lasting two weeks before the mudslide was the main cause for the disaster. Rainfall amounting to over 80 inches in ten day loosened the soil so much that the resulting slude & rocks thundered down the slopes, virtukally disintegrating it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.231.4.146 (talk) 18:50, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

"Mudslide" is incorrect terminology, "Mudflow" is correct. Please do not use "Mudslide."

Use of the term "Mudslide" is incorrect and is a mistake perpetuated by the news media when reporting on these types of disasters. "Mudslide" is an erroneous combination of the terms mudflow and landslide, which are two very different geo-technical mechanisms. Mud, in all its forms, is a liquid or viscous substance and does not "slide," rather it flows. Use of the term "mudslide" should be completely avoided. I studied geomorphology/geology in college and I will dig up some sources for this if need be. Some attention to the article from a geologist or geophysicist would be better, though. I'll try to tag it for that. Darkest tree (talk) 20:07, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Not too detailed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.82.7.195 (talk) 21:42, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

"Mudslide" is certainly not a good technical term, but it is the vernacular. I wouldn't object to a change, however, as long as (1) it was proposed as a move and (2) the article was rewritten appropriately, acknowledging the vernacular "mudslide". Of course there is a continuum from landslide to mudflow. --Bejnar (talk) 09:11, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

"Vernacular" is provincial to the nonscientific communities. In science reference, vernacular isn't tantamount to nomenclature. Mudslide is a mistaken implication that isn't improved by its erroneous popularity. Mud flows. Wet soil in a landslide isn't the same phenomena, although a displaced landslide mass may be broken up enough to capture rain and/or runoff to the point that spillover spawns mudflows. Or a landslide across a drainage channel, acting as a dam, can breach, mud and/or debris flows can be generated in the wash-through. It's irresponsible for science to excuse popular mistakes.

Also, about the "Mudflow Geography" section (#3) is mislabeled. The descriptions within that section pertain to "Landslide Geography" or "Landslide Geometry"; there's nothing in that section's text that pertains to flowing. (Macbaldy (talk) 01:33, 28 January 2019 (UTC))

Edited Protection from Mudslides

I was doing some research on this topic and noticed that the Protection section had been very badly paraphrased from a CDC information page about landslides and mudslides - badly in the sense that it had been so badly paraphrased that it was providing incorrect information and was somewhat confusing. I re-paraphrased the section to be slightly more accurate and added a citation to the relevant CDC page. I've left the term as "mudslide" in place as that is the term used everywhere else on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.152.183.2 (talk) 20:34, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Removed for now

However, the world's largest pre-historic mudslide including under water mudslides was an enormous submarine landslide that disintegrated 60,000 years ago produced the longest flow of sand and mud yet documented on Earth. The massive submarine flow travelled 1,500 kilometres – the distance from London to Rome – before depositing its load. Mike Rosoft (talk) 19:44, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

mudslide or landslide

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2006_Southern_Leyte_mudslide#mudslide_or_landslide.3F And landslide doesn't even mention "mudslide"! --Espoo (talk) 09:47, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

ANd if you are into landslide, could it be a rockslide or rockfall? These related terms get confused when we go into other language articles and Wikidata. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:39, 13 June 2014 (UTC)