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Requested move 17 December 2018

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Ms. Vampire who lives in my neighborhood. (non-admin closure) IffyChat -- 12:26, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]



Ms. Vampire who lives in my neighborhood.Ms Vampire who lives in my neighborhood – I think this title should be moved to one without the two periods, unless there's a special (perhaps manga-related?) reason for not doing so. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:24, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: There are two issues to deal with here: whether to put a full stop after Ms, and whether to put a full stop at the end of the title. Previous RMs have clearly shown preference to avoid ending titles with punctuation in such circumstances. ONR (talk) 21:16, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: On one hand the title of the particular work is almost a complete English sentence thus a period (full stop) should appear after the last word in the title, on the other hand it will probably make searching for this a lot easier without the period (full stop) should not be used. As for usage of the titles outside of Wikipedia, from a quick Google search both titles seem to have similar appearance in the search results. Sakura CarteletTalk 21:41, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
My !Vote for this however would probably be Ms. Vampire who lives in my neighborhood as almost all of the sources in said quick Google search used a period (full stop) after the word Ms. while Ms (without the full stop) doesn't seem mentioned at all. Sakura CarteletTalk 21:48, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 5 August 2020

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved to Ms. Vampire Who Lives in My Neighborhood. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 00:34, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Ms. Vampire who lives in my neighborhoodMs. Vampire Who Lives in My Neighborhood.MOS:TITLECAPS, and there is a ‘.’ in the end of English title by author, which is still not against MOS:AT—‘The final character should not be punctuation unless it is part of a name’. KONNO Yumeto 07:18, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So what would be the standard by which it is acceptable? We can find that reliable sources do not largely use the punctuation for Skate, but do for Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. Should we defer to common use in reliable sources? It seems a stretch to say we should turn to examples that are explicitly a separate category, trademarks, to ignore the instructions in the relevant guideline.--Yaksar (let's chat) 22:24, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I believe the principle is the same for "trademarks" as for other topics. When someone produces something and uses an unusual styling / capitalization / punctuation for the name they give it in a purely decorative manner, Wikipedia is not obliged to follow their self-published promotional formatting. Thus, when the formatting differs substantially from ordinary English, Wikipedia tends not to follow it unless independent reliable sources consistently do so. See also WP:TITLETM – "Invader ZIM" is the title of a television series (similar as with the title of a book), not a trademark in the sense you may be emphasizing. But on Wikipedia we format the title of the article about that topic as "Invader Zim". —BarrelProof (talk) 02:52, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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