Talk:Moustache (dog)

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Moustache, a French poodle, is said to have been awarded a medal by Marshal Jean Lannes for saving a regimental flag at the Battle of Austerlitz?

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Poodle?

Was he a Standard, or a Miniature? (I find it too unlikely that he would have been a Toy). DS (talk) 12:54, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What? You can't envision a toy-poodle holding off 6 Austrian soldiers??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.67.104.4 (talk) 14:21, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think any of the sources mention his specific type. Is it possible they didn't distinguish between them by size in the late 18th/early 19th centuries? - Dumelow (talk) 09:09, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Until the late 19th Century with the formation of Kennel Clubs, the Poodle breed wasn't recognised as being in multiple sizes. Miyagawa (talk) 17:34, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Moustache (dog)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: —focus 03:35, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this article; I'll try to have comments up in a few days.—focus 03:35, 4 December 2010 (UTC) A few first impression comments before I get into the prose a bit deeper:[reply]

It's a bit hard to figure out what the infobox image is showing at a glance. If there aren't any other suitable images, have you considered cropping it so that the dog can be clearly seen on the article page? Just a suggestion; might not be the best option.
Why is the first section 'historical background'? That gives the impression that it will explain the historical background of the time period (a section which, by the way, is probably necessary to have). Also, 'historical sources' is lacking inline citations.
IMO, stating that you primarily use certain sources could be considered a bit POV — you're supposed to try to have fair representation of the most notable sources or opinions. If there's already consensus regarding this that's fine, but otherwise you may want to rethink the way you use the various historical accounts.

Hi, thanks for agreeing to review.

Image: That is the only image I am aware of for the subject. It could possibly be cropped to show just the dog but I think it is valuable to have the whole scene. I have moved it to the main article body so that it can be displayed a little larger.

1st section: I included that section so I could explain the nature of the sources available. It is possibly verging on editorialising but I thought it should be mentioned that because there are no contemporary sources (all are at least 20 years after the events) there could be some elaboration and fictionalisation. I do not think it POV to state that I am using two main sources. I chose the two main ones as they were the most coherent, I have noted where other sources disagree. I should note that I don't have access to the sources listed in the second note (they came from another source).

If there is anything you would like me to do please let me know. I am not available for the next week but should be able to make any changes next weekend. Many thanks - Dumelow (talk) 08:42, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, could you retitle that section? I really think that 'Historical Background' gives the wrong impression. Maybe 'sources' or 'historical sources' would be better. —focus 14:58, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a little confused as to why you put the other books in a footnote. It seems to me that they would be better in the references section, perhaps under "further reading" or "other accounts".

I agree with both your suggestions and have altered the article accordingly. Cheers - Dumelow (talk) 10:10, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I haven't replied to this review; it just had slipped my mind. I'm going to pass it has a GA because I can't find anything that prevents it from meeting the criteria. Great work on a unusual topic!. —focus 05:16, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Listed author "Arma Canemque Cano" is actually a Latin pun on the Aeneid?

Hello! I've gone looking for some of the Historical Sources in this article, and the source from the Kaleidoscope is prefaced with "Arma Canemque Cano"--this does not appear to be an author name but rather a Latin phrase, perhaps "I sing of arms and a dog", probably a pun on "Arma virimque cano" or "I sing of arms and a man" from Virgil's Aeneid... This is my first Wikipedia comment, please be kind! Animwriter (talk) 04:09, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]