Talk:Mood Swings (Pop Smoke song)/GA1

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 12:57, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Taking this on straight after I have submitted "Clique" for GAN! --K. Peake 17:43, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

Remove Kiwi from the infobox per Template:Infobox song
"American rapper Pop Smoke featuring" → "American rapper Pop Smoke, featuring"
"from the formers" → "from the former's"
Add release year of the album in brackets
"alongside Lil Tjay who" → "alongside Lil Tjay, who"
"Dizzy Banko, and Kiwi." → "Dizzy Banko, while Kiwi contributed co-production."
"A remix featuring" → "A remix that features"
"while an EP was released" → "while an EP was released for the song" to avoid confusion with the remix
Why does the lead say that they "sing about" the subject when the body says the performers "rap about" it? Singing and rapping are two different things...
"received generally positive reviews" → "received mixed to positive reviews" because the reception demonstrates the latter, not the former
"including Norway, where it" → "including Portugal, where it"
"in The United States by" → "in the United States by"
"An accompany visualizer was made for" → "A visualizer was made for"
"Jordyn Woods and Dylan" → "Jordyn Woods, and Dylan"
"was made and" → "was made for the song and"
"David Wept and features Lil Tjay and his girlfriend, Lala Baptiste," → "David Wept, and features Lil Tjay and Lala Baptiste" since not only should she solely be introduced in the body, but the succeeding prose here mentions them being in a relationship anyway

Background and composition

"Pop Smoke and Lil Tjay previously collaborated" → "Prior to "Mood Swings", Pop Smoke and Lil Tjay had previously collaborated"
""Mary Jane" and "Zoo York", the latter from" → ""Mary Jane", and "Zoo York"; the latter of the four is from"
"had a different beat. Producer Beat Menace" → "had a different beat; American record producer Beat Menace"
"as the label wanted" → "since the label wanted" but where does the source mention the label wanting the flavor?

Beat Menance said it right here: "so they wanted me to put my flavor over it." The Ultimate Boss (talk) 02:14, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilink cadence
Target flow to Flow (rapping) per MOS:LINK2SECT
Since you mention the label for the second time in the para when saying about the engineer, you should put the name of the label here if known

Not done, doesn't need to be mentioned a lot. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 02:14, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"to further work on it. Lil Tjay" → "to further work on it; Lil Tjay"
"alongside Lil Tjay who" → "alongside Lil Tjay, who"
"handled "Mood Swings" programming." → "handled the programming for "Mood Swings"." with the target
"Beat Menace, Dizzy Banko, and Kiwi." → "Beat Menace and Dizzy Banko, while co-produced by Kiwi." removing the following sentence, as Tidal credits co-producers under producers too and those who served as producers are the ones that are only credited for that production classification
Target Mixing to Audio mixing (recorded music)
"were credited assistant mixers." → "were credited as assistant mixers."
Target Jess Jackson to Jess Jackson (record producer)
Target engineers to Audio engineer
"was later released worldwide" → "was later released" because that source is a BBC one, which does not provide verification of a worldwide release
Introduce who Summer Walker is
"She stated she" → "The singer-songwriter stated she"
"on an EP of the same name," → "on an EP for "Mood Swings" of the same name," to be specific
"percussive production which" → "percussive production, which" with the target
"artists' amorous lyrics"." → "artists' amorous lyrics."" for consistency
"Pop Smoke and Lil Tjay "effortlessly" raps" → "Pop Smoke "effortlessly" raps" since the source only mentions him rapping; this should be changed in the lead too
Could you add some info about Lil Tjay's verse here?

Can't find any sources that talk about his verses. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 02:14, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilink birth control

Critical reception

Shouldn't this be retitled to Reception since TikTok trending doesn't classify as "critics" really?
"was met with generally positive reviews" → "was met with mixed to positive reviews"
"sound on 808s and Heartbreak," → "sound on 808s & Heartbreak (2008),"
"the song, along with "Something Special", is so romantic," → "the song and "Something Special" are so romantic" to not read confusingly with the quote that follows
"genuinely touching fashion"" → "genuinely touching fashion.""
"noted that Pop Smoke sounded" → "noted that Pop Smoke sounds"
"the unsettling lyrics"." → "the unsettling lyrics.""
The Atlantic's Hannah Giorgis → Giorgis, as you have already introduced her, plus this review should not be at the end of the section since it belongs with the positive ones

The Ultimate Boss Why have you not moved this review as I suggested since it is not a negative one? --K. Peake 06:37, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"The remix of "Mood Swings" featuring Summer Walker also received" → "The remix of "Mood Swings" was received with" because the original did not receive generally positive reviews, unlike the remix

Commercial performance

"at number number 8 on" → "at number eight on" per MOS:NUM

The Ultimate Boss Why have you kept the excess word? --K. Peake 06:37, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"It was certified double platinum" → "The song was certified double platinum"
The first and second top 10 single claims are not backed up; add the two artists' respective chart history for doing so
"It was certified silver" → "The song was certified silver"
Merge the Denmark and Iceland sentence with the Australia and New Zealand one, but keep the refs where they are
"It received a" → "The song received a"
"of over 70,000 copies." → "of over 70,000 copies in Australia."
"The song was most successful" → "It was most successful" to stop from starting two consecutive sentences with "the song"
"at number one on the chart." → "at number one on the country's singles chart."

Music videos

Wikilink music video on the img text
"not show either" → "not show neither"
"Jordyn Woods and Dylan" → "Jordyn Woods, and Dylan"
"post that captioned:" → "post that he captioned:"
"and the Gonzalez," → "and the Gonzalezes,"
"as they fix their hair," → "while they fix their hair," to avoid repeating "as" too closely
[43][44][46][47][48] should not all be at the end of the sentence since five refs is too many; move around to being after appropriate commas for a few or more
Remove or replace Hollywood Life since that is an unreliable gossip site
"the song a huge failure. They deemed it was not enough" → "the song a huge failure, deeming that it was not enough"
"and requested for a" → "and requesting for a"

Not done, seems awkward when read out loud. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 02:14, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did some copy editing here to comply with both of our viewpoints. --K. Peake 06:37, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[53] is useless at the end of the sentence where it precedes [49], as the latter backs all of the sentence up
"and said "Tjay" → "and said, "Tjay"

Track listing

Retitle to Track listings

Credits and personnel

Producers should come before programmers per the credits order
produce, co-producer → co-producer

Charts

Good

Certifications

Good

References

Copyvio score looks moderately good at 30.1%; ignore the flagged URLs, as none of them are used as sources in this article
Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
Remove amp from the numerous URLs that it is included in
WP:OVERLINK of Complex on refs 4, 16, 28 and 43
Remove Apple Music from the title of ref 8 and change the publisher to having NZ following it in brackets
WP:OVERLINK of The Fader on refs 9 and 44
WP:OVERLINK of NME on ref 14
WP:OVERLINK of The Atlantic on ref 17
Either add an archive to ref 41 or cite a different URL since that does not back up the position
WP:OVERLINK of Billboard on ref 45
Remove or replace ref 46 per my earlier comment
WP:OVERLINK of Rap-Up on ref 53
WP:OVERLINK of Rolling Stone on ref 67
Shouldn't hitparade.ch be cited as publisher instead on ref 69?

I been told that you don't need to remove the links for the magazines or websites for the refs. Take a look at "Blank Space" for example. The article is at FA and the overlinking wasn't brought up at all during the FAC review. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 02:14, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Final comments and verdict

On hold until the issues are fixed, but this is a reasonably large article so you definitely deserve the congrats up to this point! --K. Peake 17:43, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Peake, all of your issues should be fixed. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 02:14, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Ultimate Boss A few more need fixing, as I have pointed out above. --K. Peake 06:37, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Peake Done. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 07:15, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Ultimate Boss I am very impressed with such a quick response from you to my replies, but do you think you could review "Clique"? ✓ Pass for this confidently, great job! --K. Peake 07:26, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]