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The article says 'carvings of chains' but the chains are not carved on the building but rather metal chains attached to it. http://www.cs.utah.edu/~bigler/pictures/europe2002/spain/church%20chains.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.65.53.233 (talk) 18:33, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Carlstak (talk) 02:22, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Editor Vvven is adding vast amounts of text copied-and-pasted from raw Google machine translations of Spanish Wikipedia text, with minimal editing. This is against Wikipedia policy, and since it is done without attribution, violates the copyrights retained by editors who made contributions to the Spanish text.

This copying of raw Google translations yields such ridiculous and nonsensical statements as: "At first the central nave was crowned by an austere vault whose last pillar, that corresponds to the cruiser, strengthened the point of support of the dumbbell forming a thick buttress", or this gem: "The solution came in a second phase, already dead Jun Guas, in which the project was simplified."

WP:MACHINETRANSLATION says: "Avoid machine translations. Translation takes work. Machine translation almost always produces very low-quality results. Wikipedia consensus is that an unedited machine translation, left as a Wikipedia article, is worse than nothing."

This editor is doing a lot of damage to many Wikipedia articles, and should stop adding these wholesale machine translations and copyright violations immediately, as he is creating a great deal of work for other editors, whose time could be better spent doing other tasks than fixing such lazy editing. Carlstak (talk) 15:55, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

These articles do not have results of low quality, but rather I dedicate to increase the quality of the articles with valuable information without erasing the article already written, and it is not a mere translation of a machine because if I dedicate myself to improve the translation, Tell me which machine translates it like this --Vvven (talk) 21:14, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Here, for comparison's sake, is the English text from which these sentences were taken as it appeared in the article before my reversion:
"The temple, which was completed in 1495, fully corresponds to the Isabelline type, a single nave with chapels-niches between the buttresses and with choir raised to the feet. It was built in several stages for which the initial project was modified several times. At first the central nave was crowned by an austere vault whose last pillar, that corresponds to the cruiser, strengthened the point of support of the dumbbell forming a thick buttress. But in 1484 the original project was remodeled by the hand of Guas who transformed the head in a funerary chapel covered by a dome, designed for the burial of the Catholic Monarchs. This was not accomplished and is why the header space gives a feeling of emptiness. The solution came in a second phase, already dead Jun Guas, in which the project was simplified. The profuse ornamentation of the temple shows the symbols of the Catholic Monarchs, as well as the San John eagle and heraldic decoration. The inner perimeter of the church is crossed by a strip with a commemorative text, which can be considered an adaptation of the Arab epigraphy to the Christian architecture. The sculptor Egas Cueman collaborated decisively in the decoration of the set."
Here is the text as it appears in the raw Google Translate version of the Spanish Wikipedia page:
"The temple, which was completed in 1495, fully corresponds to the Elizabethan type, a single nave with chapels-niches between the buttresses and with choir raised to the feet. It was built in several stages for which the initial project was modified several times. At first the central nave was crowned by an austere vault whose last pillar, that corresponds to the cruiser, strengthened the point of support of the dumbbell forming a thick buttress. But in 1484 the original project was remodeled by the hand of Guas who transformed the head in a funerary chapel covered by a dome, designed for the burial of the Catholic Monarchs. This was not accomplished and is why the header space gives a feeling of emptiness. The solution came in a second phase, already dead Jun Guas, in which the project was simplified. The profuse ornamentation of the temple shows the symbols of the Catholic Monarchs, as well as the San Juan eagle and heraldic decoration. The inner perimeter of the church is crossed by a strip with a commemorative text, which can be considered an adaptation of the Arab epigraphy to the Christian architecture. The sculptor Egas Cueman collaborated decisively in the decoration of the set."
You have copied and pasted the raw Google Translate text, and are deliberately violating WP policy and copyright; furthermore, your English is too poor for you to translate text on your own. Cease and desist. Carlstak (talk) 00:45, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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