Talk:Mohammad Shah Qajar/GA2
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Nominator: Amir Ghandi (talk · contribs) 18:00, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Matarisvan (talk · contribs) 07:10, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Amir Ghandi, I will be reviewing this one. This will be my first GA review so please excuse any mistakes I may make. As I see it, on my first read through, the article is comprehensive and the sourcing is good. However, the copy editing issues identified by AirshipJungleman29 in the previous GA review are still present. I can note these down here and I will fix the small ones myself, if that is ok with you. In the last review you said you didn't have the time to do the copyediting, so please let me know if that is still the case now, and I will do all the edits myself since I believe the article is too important and comprehensive to be failed for a few pending copy edits.
Also, I am amazed that this article had been nominated on 9 April but hasn't been reviewed so far. I will try to wrap this one up quickly if you're up for that pace. Matarisvan (talk) 07:10, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, @Matarisvan. I will be able to copy edit the article. Amir Ghandi (talk) 08:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Hi Amir Ghandi, my suggestions:
Prose review
[edit]- "Ottoman governor of Baghdad": Link Baghdad to Baghdad Eyalet?
- In the infobox, clarify that the Fatima Masumeh Shrine is in Qom?
- "buried in Fatima Masumeh Shrine": "buried at the Fatima Masumeh Shrine" might be better grammatically, consider changing in both the lead and body.
- "in 1795, while Agha Mohammad Khan": "when" might be better instead of "while".
- Link "Russian army" on first mention to "Imperial Russian Army"?
- "(then called Baba Khan)": seems irrelevant here, would be better placed in the Fath-Ali Shah article.
- "and overshadowed Iranian pride": seems unnecessary and unclear, consider removing?
- Link to Tabriz in the Childhood subsection?
- Link to Mashhad in the Early military career subsection?
- Link to Kerman on first mention instead of second?
- All done
- Link John McNeill to John McNeill (diplomat)?
- I have already linked it
- Add the inflation template for Shafti's 2.5 million francs?
- Done
- Link Safavid to Safavid Empire?
- done
- Link blasphemy to Blasphemy in Islam?
- done
I did the little copy edits myself. Completed upto the Second Treaty of Erzurum section, will resume from there tomorrow. Cheers Matarisvan (talk) 15:48, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Amir Ghandi, my last set of comments on the prose:
- "Khorramshahr, Zohab and Sulaymaniyah": Do we know which Zohab this is? The one in Chenaran, Hormazgan, North Khorasan or South Khorasan? If we do, consider linking?
- Its actually none of those, the name refers to Sarpol-e Zahab
- "£1 million as compensation": add the inflation template?
- Done
- "torn to pieces": consider replacing with "killed"?
- Done
- (In the same letters, he expressed his concerns for the shah's health).: Seems irrelevant, consider removing?
- Done
- "was successful in obtaining a fatwa": do we know who issued this fatwa? If so, consider adding?
- Had to change this because of my own misunderstanding.
- "given to him by his Jewish doctor, who was assigned to Mohammad when Aqasi dismissed the British and French doctors. The Jewish doctor's": I would suggest removing the word Jewish in both instances and also removing the bit about Aqasi dismissing the British and French doctors. Though it may be a fact that the doctor was Jewish, mentioning this might be considered antisemitic and promoting the article with this bit in it might land me in trouble.
- I rewrote the sentence. Thoughts?
- Amir Ghandi, looks good, will resume the review tomorrow. Meanwhile, check out the comments below?
- I rewrote the sentence. Thoughts?
- "Akhbar-i Vaqa-a": Translate?
- "Russian navy": Link to Imperial Russian Navy?
- "These events led to Nicholas I exchanging letters with Mohammad. In a diplomatic sense, Mohammad had allowed the Russian navy to anchor in Anzali.": How did he allow the Russians to anchor? Did the letter exchanges allow these? If so, clarify?
- Link Gilan?
- Done
- Link to Kashan on first mention?
- Done
- Abdol-samad Mirza's mother is noted as Ogholbeigeh Khanum, a Turkmen lady. We have not listed her here, why? Also, that would increase the number of known wives from three to four.
- I couldn't find any source supporting this.
- Would this link [1] be ok as a source? Also, this webpage cites the Tarikh-e Azodi. Eskandari-Qajar published a translation in 2014, perhaps check there?
- Would using a primary source be alright? Amir Ghandi (talk) 10:18, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Would this link [1] be ok as a source? Also, this webpage cites the Tarikh-e Azodi. Eskandari-Qajar published a translation in 2014, perhaps check there?
- I couldn't find any source supporting this.
Matarisvan (talk) 18:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Amir Ghandi, I think the translated version of the Tarikh-e Azodi would be alright, since it is a critical edition. Matarisvan (talk) 10:39, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Matarisvan I surveyed through the book and unfortunately found nothing. Amir Ghandi (talk) 21:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Amir Ghandi, would this link https://www.royalark.net/Persia/qajar21.htm be ok? I think it would be. Also, any progress on coverting the Encyclopædia Iranica sources to EI Online? After that I would be able to do the spot checks and conclude this review. Matarisvan (talk) 06:35, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'll get to them today. Also tried to add the source but an automated filter detected the source as unreliable. Amir Ghandi (talk) 06:48, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Amir Ghandi, one last thing on the prose review: is the Count Medem we refer to here Pavel Medem? If yes, add a link? Matarisvan (talk) 13:59, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Matarisvan Yep, done. Amir Ghandi (talk) 14:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, the prose review is a pass, now we have to work through just the image review and spot checks. Matarisvan (talk) 14:13, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Matarisvan Yep, done. Amir Ghandi (talk) 14:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Amir Ghandi, one last thing on the prose review: is the Count Medem we refer to here Pavel Medem? If yes, add a link? Matarisvan (talk) 13:59, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'll get to them today. Also tried to add the source but an automated filter detected the source as unreliable. Amir Ghandi (talk) 06:48, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Amir Ghandi, would this link https://www.royalark.net/Persia/qajar21.htm be ok? I think it would be. Also, any progress on coverting the Encyclopædia Iranica sources to EI Online? After that I would be able to do the spot checks and conclude this review. Matarisvan (talk) 06:35, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Matarisvan I surveyed through the book and unfortunately found nothing. Amir Ghandi (talk) 21:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Amir Ghandi, I think the translated version of the Tarikh-e Azodi would be alright, since it is a critical edition. Matarisvan (talk) 10:39, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Image review
[edit]- Though not a GA requirement, consider adding alts for the images. I think you want to take the article to FA and alts are necessary there per MOS. Matarisvan (talk) 15:48, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Source review
[edit]- There are 7 refs which still use harvnb, consider converting these to sfn like all the other refs?
- Refs #6, #9, #32, #72, #106, #107, #127, #148, #149: page numbers needed.
- These citations are all from Encyclopedia Iranica, which is available online. The encyclopedia has its own unique template, which requires the page numbers. That is why the page numbers are mentioned.
- Amir Ghandi, let me illustrate this with an example. Ref #6 cites Perry 1984 to support the fact that Agha Mohammad was assassinated in 1797 in Shusha. Now this source is 4 pages long, and I'm sure that this particular detail is mentioned on only 1 page and not all 4. I asked that page numbers be added for Encyclopædia Iranica sources which were longer than 2 pages, and not for those shorter than this.
- Unfortunately, other than purchasing the physical encyclopedia, there's no way for me to check on the pages. Would it be better if I replace these templates with Template:Encyclopædia Iranica Online? Amir Ghandi (talk) 10:18, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Amir Ghandi, I think you should indeed convert those refs to EI Online. Matarisvan (talk) 10:39, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, other than purchasing the physical encyclopedia, there's no way for me to check on the pages. Would it be better if I replace these templates with Template:Encyclopædia Iranica Online? Amir Ghandi (talk) 10:18, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Amir Ghandi, let me illustrate this with an example. Ref #6 cites Perry 1984 to support the fact that Agha Mohammad was assassinated in 1797 in Shusha. Now this source is 4 pages long, and I'm sure that this particular detail is mentioned on only 1 page and not all 4. I asked that page numbers be added for Encyclopædia Iranica sources which were longer than 2 pages, and not for those shorter than this.
- These citations are all from Encyclopedia Iranica, which is available online. The encyclopedia has its own unique template, which requires the page numbers. That is why the page numbers are mentioned.
- Ref #149: perhaps we meant Amanat 1997 or 1998 and not Amanat 1999? If so, correct the year?
- Actually, it was Amanat 1993. Corrected.
- Andreeva 2010 should be listed after all the Amanat sources. Abol-Hosseini 2007 should be first, followed by Ahanagaran 2013, then Algar 2020, then Amanat and Andreeva.
- The Abbas Amanat sources will have to be put in chronological order.
- Bournoutian 2015 should be just before Busse 1982 and not before Başkan 2014.
- Daftary 2007 should be after Calmard 2004. Green 2020 should be after Ghadimi Gheydari 2010.
- Calmard 2004 should be before Clawson & Rubin 2005 in the order. Ditto for Ebrahmi 2008 & Ebrahimnejad 2013 before Edrisi 2014, Eskandari-Qajar 2005 before Eslami 1999, Farzaneh 2015 before Floor 2012, Lambton 2012 before Lee 1996.
- Nategh 2014 needs a translated title and language parameter. Also the link to Paris should be removed.
- In Navā'ī 1988, the title should not be in all capitals, but in sentence case. Navā'ī 1988 should also be listed after Nategh 2014, and Nelson 1986 after it.
- All done
- Location of publication needed for Rypka 1968, Scharbrodt 2008, van den Bos 2021. Also, the link to Jan Rypka should be removed, otherwise you will have to link to all the other authors.
- Done
- Will do spot checks soon. Matarisvan (talk) 18:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)