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whats the name of the south park episode that parodies this? it has all the kids sending their parents to jail for bad touch? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.27.177.19 (talk) 22:49, 4 May 2008 (UTC) That's The Wacky Molestation Adventure. The wiki page for that episode describes it as a Children of the Corn parody instead. 76.120.74.134 (talk) 21:32, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another Earth?

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I found it really weird that they find a duplicate Earth in the galaxy, but the episode never explains why such a thing would exist. It's like that plot thread just disappears. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.49.116 (talk) 19:48, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's Star Trek for ya! ;-) 97.124.67.111 (talk) 15:38, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's not the only episode with that plot element. "The Omega Glory" is also set on a parallel Earth, where the US and Red China fight a devastating war (which could still happen and turn this from fiction to documentary). Remember the Yangs and the Khoms? "Freedom? Freedom? That is a worship word, Yang worship. You will not SPEAK it!"TheBaron0530 (talk) 19:40, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

UK complaints?

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The header states: "When the episode was first screened in the United Kingdom in 1970, the BBC received a number of complaints." Details, please, somebody? 99.179.96.132 (talk) 07:49, 14 September 2012 (UTC) JCRx[reply]

obvious vandalism. 98.246.51.8 (talk) 06:41, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm? I'm not sure about this. Miri was absolutely broadcast in the UK throughout the 1970s. I very well remember seeing it as a child. I too would be interested in the nature of any complaints the BBC received at the time. I can only imagine it was over concern that the storyline might frighten children, despite the fact that ST was never aimed at juveniles. Nevertheless there certainly were at least two episodes of ST which were not broadcast in the UK until the 1990s, but Miri certainly wasn't one of them. The BBC had a panel of reviewers who were shown screenings of ST to judge if they were deemed fit to be broadcast in the very late 1960s early 1970s. The panel recommended that certain episodes should not to be broadcast. In particular scenes thought shocking and/or frightening to younger viewers were excluded. Two episodes that I know absolutely to have been so proscribed were "Plato's Stepchildren" and "The Empath". The reason for not screening "The Empath" was the sadistic torture scenes. The reason for not screening "Plato's Stepchildren" was not the famous interracial kiss but likely the scenes which showed Kirk being grossly humiliated by telekinetic powers, this was thought to be upsetting to younger viewers who might be idolizing/hero worshipping the Kirk character. As a hardcore trekker I remember being angered at not seeing the episodes. However as an adult in the 1990s I was rather glad I hadn't seen "Plato's Stepchildren" at the time which I found rather disturbing. Neither "Plato's Stepchildren" nor "The Empath", both third season ST, are recognized as particularly good ST. Forgive the POV but the weakness, lack of direction and failure to adhere to the trusted formula certainly undermined the sustainability of ST in the third season. But Miri absolutely does not belong to that third season group and it certainly wasn't withdrawn by the BBC. It may not have been shown quite so often as other episodes throughout the 1970s but it certainly was broadcast. In good faith. AMM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.34.115 (talk) 23:10, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the lines. There was a "Citation Needed" tag since Dec 2012 and it was first mentioned in Sept 2012. If someone can find a reliable source, feel free to add it back. 97.124.67.111 (talk) 15:42, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
See http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Miri_(episode) - "Despite being transmitted by the BBC in the UK in December 1970, "Miri" was not broadcast again until the '90s. An official BBC statement by Sheila Cundy of the Programme Correspondence Section reads: "After very careful consideration a top level decision was made not to screen the episodes entitled "Empath" [sic], "Whom The Gods Destroy" [sic], "Plato's Stepchildren" and "Miri", because they all dealt most unpleasantly with the already unpleasant subjects of madness, torture, sadism and disease" (BBC form letter, undated, Reference 28/SPC). Apparently, when "Miri" was first broadcast by the BBC (in black and white), several viewers wrote to complain about its content and the BBC reviewed the remainder of the episodes, deeming the three mentioned above as being unsuitable." Though I had thought that it was banned because of the relationship between Kirk and Miri. -- Beardo (talk) 17:55, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm intrigued by your use of "[sic]". Correctrix (talk) 05:25, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It seems that the BBC statement was careless about the articles; actual titles are "The Empath" and "Whom Gods Destroy". Joule36e5 (talk) 22:12, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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"Space Central," not the Federation

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”Back on the Enterprise after vaccinating everyone, Kirk asks the Federation to send teachers and advisers to help the children improve their lives.” (The last paragraph of the plot summary.)

Actually—having just watched the episode—Kirk relates to Rand that he has already contacted “Space Central.”

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6jd5nn (around 50:00)

What exactly is Space Central? Was this entity ever mentioned in any other episode? Is it a unit of the Federation of Planets? Was the term “the Federation” ever mentioned prior to this first season episode? Perhaps this term should be noted in the article. Certainly, Space Central should replace the Federation in this case as that is what Kirk referred to. I would do it right now but I’m uncertain if there should be a note such as: “this is the only episode where this term is used,” should that be the case. Perhaps a more serious “Treky” than myself can tackle this issue. If no one replies, i am going to make the change sometime soon without any explanatory note using the episode itself as my source. Thank you.HistoryBuff14 (talk) 18:46, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • It was an unintentional connunity error-later it would be replaced as the United Federation
Yes, I'm not sure how they handle the episode, I think Tomorrow is Yesterday, where Captain Christopher comes aboard. I think Kirk tells him their authority comes from the United earth Space Probe Agency or something. Probably should look at that article for guidance. StarHOG (Talk) 21:30, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The category "Puberty" seems legitimate, since it is important to the plot, read the article if you have not seen the episode. PatGallacher (talk) 21:12, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

24,874 miles

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At the start of the episode spock gives the circumference of the planet as 24,874 miles. This number is between the modern distance given going around the poles and the larger distance to go around the equater. Does anybody have a source for where this number comes from?

This article would be better if all the planet dimensions from Spock's measurements were included in the article.

This was information that I looked for but had difficulty finding.

Does anybody have any objection to me adding a sentence about the circumference of the planet given by spock to the article? 2601:204:D600:CB20:6DC4:55:3B2C:807D (talk) 14:44, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Find a reliable source for the number and it would be fine to add; per WP:OR. I think that it would be reasonable to add something like "This number is between the modern distance given going around the poles and the larger distance to go around the equater", giving references for those other distances. Klbrain (talk) 12:19, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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