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Millennium Hilton New York One UN Plaza has been listed as one of the Art and architecture good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: December 31, 2022. (Reviewed version).

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A fact from Millennium Hilton New York One UN Plaza appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 September 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that during meetings at the United Nations headquarters, the United Nations Plaza Hotel was said to have more security than guests?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Millennium Hilton New York One UN Plaza.

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 13:48, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that prior to the opening of the United Nations Plaza Hotel, staff pretended to be "finicky guests"? Source: Taylor, Angela (August 3, 1976). "Newest Hotel in New York: Elegant, Meticulous, Secure". The New York Times.
- ALT1: ... that during meetings at the United Nations headquarters, the United Nations Plaza Hotel was said to have more security than guests? Source: Fein, Esther B. (October 24, 1985). "A New Status Symbol: Getting Near the U.N." The New York Times.
- ALT2: ... that staff at New York City's United Nations Plaza Hotel once arranged to have a rare bottle of liquor delivered from London for one guest? Source: Rimer, Sara (September 23, 1985). "U.N. Guests' Wishes Are Hotels' Commands". The New York Times.
- ALT3: ... that about a quarter of the Millennium UN Plaza hotel's profit was directly related to United Nations business? Source: Fickenscher, Lisa (September 18, 2006). "A diplomatic affair". Crain's New York Business. Vol. 22, no. 38. p. 2.
- ALT4: ... that the rooms in New York City's United Nations Plaza Hotel, completed in 1976, were decorated with tapestries that dated as far back as the 8th century? Source: Schuler, Barbara; Sherman, Beth (April 24, 1994). "Sunday Seen". Newsday. p. 25.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rufina Peter

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 13:13, 15 August 2022 (UTC).[reply]

The article is new enough, long enough, referenced, neutral and no copyvio obvious. The hooks are sourced and interesting, and my preference is ALT1. The images in the article are free. QPQ done. Corachow (talk) 16:10, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Corachow, why did you use the blue tick? --Mhhossein ^talk 12:54, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, should’ve mention in the review. There are a few sources that are offline or require subscriptions. I AFG those. Corachow (talk) 13:07, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. --Mhhossein ^talk 13:17, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. Hog Farm _Talk 17:51, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Millennium Hilton New York One UN Plaza/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 16:29, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Will review soon. It's unfortunate that this one has gone so long without getting a reviewer. Hog Farm _Talk 16:29, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

" it could not be taller than the Secretariat Building." - is this a reference to the United Nations Secretariat Building? If so, recommend linking
- Yes, and I have done that. Epicgenius (talk) 17:06, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
" The plan was controversial, and the New York City Planning Commission narrowly approved the plan in 1970" - is it worth saying why it was controversial
- I added a sentence about that. Epicgenius (talk) 17:06, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Kevin Roche is never actually mentioned or cited in the body by name
- Oops. I've fixed this too (the sources do mention Roche). Epicgenius (talk) 17:06, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"For example, after a delegate requested a rare liquor that was only available in the UK," - not quite supported by the source. The source (if I was looking at the right spot) just says that it wasn't available. The source says it's a scotch, so presumably if its an accredited scotch, it's going to be made in Scotland, but that doesn't narrow it down to only being available in the UK
- Fixed - the article now says "not available in the US". Epicgenius (talk) 17:06, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
" "A Visit to the Millennium Hilton New York One UN Plaza". LuxeGetaways. January 8, 2018. Archived from the original on September 28, 2021. Retrieved August 11, 2022." - not sure this is RS for these purposes. A dig through some of the advertising stuff they mention suggests that some of their "reviews" may be native advertising
- I replaced this with a reference from the U.S. News & World Report, which actually covers more stuff than LuxeGetaways did (and contradicts the number of meeting rooms cited by LuxeGetaways). Epicgenius (talk) 17:06, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
""Millennium UN Plaza Hotel New York Launches Major Upgrade Initiative - Luxury West Tower Will Reopen in September 2012". Hospitality Net. August 11, 2022. Archived from the original on August 11, 2022. Retrieved August 11, 2022." - I believe there's a way to mark citations as press releases, do that here
- Done. Epicgenius (talk) 17:06, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fine other than these few concerns, placing on hold. Hog Farm _Talk 05:23, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Hog Farm: Thanks for the review. I have addressed all of these issues now. Epicgenius (talk) 17:06, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Title Appropriateness

Please review and comment the title of this article as appropriate under [[ Wikipedia:Article title dos and don'ts]]. The hotel came AFTER the building was constructed. Isn't this advertising for the Hilton or Hyatt, or Millenium? Cheers, EliBigeez (talk) 23:25, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In my view, not necessarily, as Wikipedia:Article titles doesn't prevent brand/company titles from being included in article titles. The hotel passed through multiple owners over the years; Hilton was just the latest. The "default" name of this hotel, so to speak, is the United Nations Plaza Hotel, but its official name is the Millennium Hilton New York One UN Plaza. – Epicgenius (talk) 00:05, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, wrote too soon! spoke to a friend of mine another Wiki editor, and agrees with you. I thought it wasn't owned by Millenium, but alas it is! Cheers, EliBigeez (talk) 00:45, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]