Talk:Millennium Complex
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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 22:18, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
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- ... that the Millennium Complex in Plymouth, England, has hosted a cinema, dance hall, roller disco and night club? Source: "The Gaumont Palace cinema was opened on Monday, November 16, 1931 ... The cinema was remodelled into the Top Rank Entertainment Centre opening in September 1962 as both a cinema (The Odeon, with a reduced capacity of 1,043) and a dance hall, known as The Majestic ... Top Rank closed in April 1980, when it was converted into a roller disco opening in December 1980 ... In 1987 the building was converted into a nightclub and underwent a number of name and configuration changes up until its closure in August 2004" from: Davey, Tony (15 July 2018). "The many lives of Plymouth's lost 'palace of fun'". PlymouthLive. Retrieved 31 March 2023.
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... that plans have been submitted to convert part of the Millennium Complex, a former cinema, dance hall, roller disco and night club in Plymouth, England, into business units?Source: As above plus "plans submitted this week to Plymouth City Council only concern the future of the ground floor. plans submitted this week to Plymouth City Council only concern the future of the ground floor" from: Clark, Daniel (14 October 2022). "Former Millennium nightclub is finally set to come back to life". PlymouthLive. Retrieved 31 March 2023. - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Agus Salim Rangkuti
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Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 12:35, 4 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Millennium Complex; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Reviewing... Thebiguglyalien (talk) 15:04, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- New enough and long enough. Citations are sufficient, though I'd recommend citing the list of names that it's used. I don't believe it's severe enough to be a plagiarism issue, but spot checks suggest that some of the sentences in this article are nearing WP:Close paraphrasing. Double check to make sure that you're not just copying sentences over from the sources, even if you switch the wording around.
- Hooks are properly formatted and reasonably informative/interesting. I've added an extra inline citation to make sure the claims are directly cited.
- QPQ is done.
- Good to go. I prefer hook ALT0, as it's more concise. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 15:30, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. Do you have any examples of the close paraphrasing for me to look at? - Dumelow (talk) 15:47, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- Dumelow Like I said above, there's no clear cut example of plagiarism. But look at
Built in the art deco style it held 1,460 seats in the stalls and 790 in the circle
for example. Then compare it to the source:The Art Deco cinema opened in November 1931 with 1460 plush velvet seats in the stalls and 790 in the circle
. It's essentially the same info, with the same wording, in the same order, in the same sentence. There were a few sentences sort of like this. It's not a big deal when there are WP:LIMITED ways to say it, like with numbers and statistics especially, but it's something to keep an eye on when it occurs several times in the same article. The advice I've been given is to try to summarize paragraphs and passages rather than summarizing an individual sentence. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 16:54, 5 April 2023 (UTC)- Comment. Striking ALT1. "Planning permission application in progress" generally does not make for a good DYK hook. Cielquiparle (talk) 09:08, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- Dumelow Like I said above, there's no clear cut example of plagiarism. But look at
- Thanks for the review. Do you have any examples of the close paraphrasing for me to look at? - Dumelow (talk) 15:47, 5 April 2023 (UTC)