Talk:Millbourne, Pennsylvania/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 18:59, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for nominating this article at GAN! Unfortunately, I am going to have to fail it without giving a full review, due to the third immediate failure criteria stated at WP:GACR, which says, It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. In February 2022, a cleanup banner was placed on the article with two points. While confirming that the first point (This article may need to be rewritten to comply with Wikipedia's quality standards) is still valid would require a much closer read-through, the lack of sourcing in this article is cause for an immediate failure with or without a cleanup banner. The banner simply alerted me to the verification issues within.

In the interest of helping you bring this article to GA status at some point in the future, allow me to point out several examples of what I mean:

Only the first sentence under the "Geography" subhead is referenced.
Only the first and last paragraph in the "Landmarks" subhead is referenced. The parts on Upper darby, the community garden and homeless shelter, and Cobbs Creek all require citations.
Within "Culture", nothing in "Diversity" or "Food" is referenced.
The sentence about the Town Watch requires a citation.
The 2010 and 2000 Censuses are not cited.
Neither "public transportation" nor "utilities" are referenced, within the "Infrastructure" subhead.

Additionally, even the references that are included are not fully formatted. The GA criteria I linked earlier state that Using consistent formatting or including every element of the bibliographic material is not required, although, in practice, enough information must be supplied that the reviewer is able to identify the source. This means, in practice, the inclusion of writers, publishes, and most importantly for online references, access dates. For written works like History of Delaware County, Pennsylvania, that means page numbers.

I hope that my advice makes sense, and I suggest that you look at some town articles that have been promoted to Good Article to get a sense of what we are looking for. — Ghost River 18:59, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GhostRiver, Where in the GA criteria is a requirement for page numbers stated? Good articles are only measured against the good article criteria Please ping with reply. Cheers · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 06:46, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pbsouthwood As stated above, enough information must be supplied that the reviewer is able to identify the source. In addition to that, WP:GACR also states that reviewers should ensure those [sources] you can access support the content of the article. It is impossible for a reviewer to verify whether information is found somewhere in, say, a 500-page book if there are no indicators as to where in the book such information may be found. — Ghost River 13:32, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GhostRiver, does the table of contents or the index not provide sufficient information? · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 13:57, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]