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[edit]All about Miep Gies
If Miep Gies was knighted then surely we should change the name of the article from Miep Gies to Dame Miep Gies or Lady Miep Gies? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.15.26.99 (talk) 14:00, 17 August 2008 (UTC) no not really! y
We wouldn't do do any such thing because it isn't what's normally done. However we should add whatever title she received to her name at the beginning of the article. FinalWish (talk) 06:03, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
"Table of contents?"
[edit]Should the article be broken down into categories and thus create a table of contents for easier referencing? Anbellofe 01:42, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
That would be useful in a longer article, but I'm not sure that this one is long enough to merit being broken up into categories. Yallery Brown 02:01, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
[unclekybo Post 2/9/7] My First post Got Removed, bummer. I posted the following: "Miep Gies proved inspirational to The Freedom Writers when she visited Erin Gruwell's urban high school in Longbeach, California (1994/1995)" (I provided a link to the foundation's page, not the movie)
It has since been removed. I saw in some of the notes that people did not think it relevant to discuss the movie and I generally agree. However, it seems appropriate to mention her apparent role in inspiring these students. It sounds like each of them went through rarely successful transformations eventually leading them to develop an organization dedicated to education. I'm a big fan of education. Miep Gies’s partial responsibility in inspiring them demonstrates her story’s continued ability to stir and broaden the minds of people around the globe. In this case, they were at-risk youth minorities in urban Los Angeles; a group whose difficulty to inspire is matched only by its terrible need for it. The simple fact that she considered it important enough to make that visit seems also relevant. The significance here has nothing at all to do with the movie. It’s her continued ability to inspire across growing generational & cultural divides and in some of our most at risk kids. BUT! I see that this article has been constructed with much respect and by people far more knowledgable, so if this Freedom Writer comment does not seem to fit, then please do not add it. I only wished to communicate my reasoning. Thanks, Kyle D. (unclekybo) 2/9/07 3:30 PM EST
Thanks for posting this. I think certainly the Talk page is the more appropriate forum to mention how Miep Gies has inspired others. Her example has motivated countless people across the world and if we were to single out one case, however famous, we would run the risk of reducing other cases by leaving them out. We also have to ask if her meeting with these particular writers was an essential detail in her biography, or if as I think, it's perhaps more significant to add the detail to their biographies. Best wishes, Yallery Brown 21:28, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Alive ?
[edit]Is Mrs. Gies still alive ? She turned 99 in February of this year.
What's about her son Paul ? Does she have grandchildren ? --AndreaMimi (talk) 19:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- She was alive as of when you asked the question. She apparently died today. 68.83.179.156 (talk) 02:05, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
- er, yesterday. Depends on where you are. 68.83.179.156 (talk) 02:06, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Photos of this woman
[edit]These sites: [[1]] and [[2]] have photos of this woman.Agre22 (talk) 00:20, 6 September 2008 (UTC)agre22
I hope, you can get the licence to use them in this article. The pictures are very great. --AndreaMimi (talk) 09:51, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
These are awesome pics ofmeip geyes ??
Remember...
[edit]I think Miep is an extraordinary women. She has gone to extreme heights to make sure that Anne Franks story is told. Showing GREAT courage, to hide the Franks.. who in return had great courage themselves. A little girl, hardly old enough to know the horror that surrounds her,Anne wrote in a diary continuosly about the whereabouts of the people who she shared in hiding. Not two years after, Anne had died. Thanks to Otto Frank (Annes dad) & Miep Gies we are open to Annes story of the last two years of her life. But in return we cherish the stories and memories of everyone who was affected by the Holocaust. We remeber and honor the stories of many survivors,and give specialthanks to those who live or lived to help tell thier stories.
wriiten by: Mikenzi Beach(: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.114.21.7 (talk) 17:06, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Trivia section?
[edit]Why is there a trivia section with one statement, that the subject was Christian? Is this believed to be trivial? I honestly don't know; it just looks odd. Coleca (talk) 04:35, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
from the UK Telegraph
She was born Hermine Santrouschitz on February 15 1909 into a German Roman Catholic family in Vienna, but was sent to the Netherlands when she was 11 to escape the food shortages in Austria —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.202.33.130 (talk) 21:09, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Israeli and Argentine sites about Miep Gies' death
[edit]These Israeli sites: [Haaretz], [JP] and [Ynetnews] have articles in English, about Miep Gies' death. And these Argentine sites: [La Nacion] and [La Prensa] have articles, in Spanish, also about Miep Gies' death.Agre22 (talk) 15:34, 12 January 2010 (UTC)agre22
Pointless Picture
[edit]Miep Gies
[edit]I just found out that this woman died on Jan. 11 of this year. I think that it's more than extraordinary to try and save this family. 143 Miep Gies. R.I.P. forever ma'am. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.130.198.235 (talk) 07:07, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Why wasn't she arrested/prosecuted?
[edit]How did she avoid being punished? Were the Nazis unable to prove she helped to protect the Achterhuis and its inhabitants, or did they just not care, or..? I think an explanation is worth adding to the article. 173.20.123.42 (talk) 20:32, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
possible typo: "In 1994, Gies was not awarded"
[edit]There is a possible typo in the 1st sentence of the section titled "Honors and awards". It says, "In 1994, Gies was not awarded" the order and medal. Did it mean to say instead that she was awarded those? Thanx, Fred Krumbein (talk) 17:40, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Fred Krumbein, 2012-3-30
29 december 2012 edit
[edit]The edit with bold and italics seems strange to me (not necessarily vandalist). Can anyone clean this up?Super48paul (talk) 12:18, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
is this correct, she was a nazi double agent?
[edit]This is on the Anne Frank page here on wiki??
Braams was the girlfriend of a Dutch resistance worker called Jannes Haan, and she was supposed to be helping him protect Jews and help the Resistance. As the war progressed, Haan became suspicious that his girlfriend was really a double agent for the Nazis: an awful lot of the Jewish families he entrusted to her were vanishing without trace, or being rounded up. When she became aware of his suspicions, Braams betrayed Haan to the Gestapo, and he was executed. It was later estimated that Miep Braams was responsible for betraying as many as two hundred Jewish families, including ours — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.179.5.223 (talk) 07:39, March 9, 2015 (UTC)
Flatly, no, it is not correct.
"Braams was the girlfriend of a Dutch resistance worker... responsible for betraying as many as two hundred Jewish families, including ours."
That entire thing is word to word copied from this site: http://www.tihapp.com/events/54923 , which is equivalent to private blogs and should not be trusted, and plus, Miep Gies and Miep Braams are two entirely different people. According to the article, the above quotation was to describe the trial of "Miep Braams" not "Miep Gies." Read something carefully before making rash comments. TheeChEese (talk) 21:31, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
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