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Exact time?
[edit]So the 2014 Mid-Autumn Festival is on September 8th. However September 8th would be different depending if you are in the eastern or western hemispheres (eg. Hawaii & US), Is there an exact UTC time for the Mid-Autumn Festival or does the full moon actually last for two whole days? --Chrysolophus pictus (talk) 06:41, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- No. The festival is on the 15th day of the 8th month. It is not linked to the full moon in any way. Full moon can occur on the 15th, 16th or 17th of the Chinese lunar month, which starts on the day (UTC+8, 120°E) of the new moon. HkCaGu (talk) 06:54, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- I guess the newspaper that wrote this article (which is currently a reference used for this article) is wrong when they say the festival ALWAYS coincides with the full moon? yellowtailshark (talk) 21:58, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
- "The full moon" implies the exact moment. "A full moon" does not. The moon is always quite full on the 15th for sure. HkCaGu (talk) 23:49, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
- I guess the newspaper that wrote this article (which is currently a reference used for this article) is wrong when they say the festival ALWAYS coincides with the full moon? yellowtailshark (talk) 21:58, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
Bizarre removal of section on Japan
[edit]I feel that people here are acting a bit odd. Tsukimi is the Japanese version of the Mid-Autumn Festival. If one takes a look at the Japanese Wikipedia article on the matter, one will notice that it describes the Japanese, Korean, Chinese and Vietnamese interpretations of the festival together. If the Japanese think their festival is such, then I think we can safely say that this is correct. In fact, the information that they are linked is sourced, so I'm not sure why it has been removed. RGloucester — ☎ 21:56, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- At some point I just need an English newspaper to talk about "Mid-Autumn Festival" and "Japan" in the same article and we're good to go. yellowtailshark (talk) 06:12, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
- The said article is "Tsukimi" not "Mid-Autumn Festival". The previous consensus was to resolve the problem of interpreting Korean and Japanese festivals as Mid-Autumn Festival by putting in a disambiguation in the lead. Cydevil38 (talk) 23:49, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
- The said Japanese article called "Tsukimi" also includes the Chinese festival, because the Japanese consider them two interpretations of the same exact thing. That's because they are. RGloucester — ☎ 21:53, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
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Similar traditions in other parts of Asia
[edit]The section "Similar traditions in other parts of Asia" seems more appropriate to be put in some kind of list article for observances held on the full moon night of the 8th month of the lunisolar calendar. yellowtailshark (talk) 12:12, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
Summer?
[edit]If it's called "mid-autumn festival" why is it happening in summer half the time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.21.126.195 (talk) 04:10, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- This is due to the fact that some traditions hold the equinoxes and solstices to be the middle of the specified season. Thus, the autumnal equinox is seen as the middle of autumn instead of the beginning. --Khajidha (talk) 12:55, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- PS-This is also why the action in Shakespeare's "A Midsummer Night's Dream" takes place in June. --Khajidha (talk) 12:58, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
- In China, autumn traditionally starts on Liqiu, the 7th or 8th of August. --2001:16B8:31EC:800:8DE0:7623:B7A6:BB07 (talk) 19:38, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- PS-This is also why the action in Shakespeare's "A Midsummer Night's Dream" takes place in June. --Khajidha (talk) 12:58, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
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Republic of China (Taiwan) In Taiwan, the Mid-Autumn Festival is a public holiday. Outdoor barbecues have become a popular affair for friends and family to gather and enjoy each other's company.[35] As of 2016, Taipei City designated 15 riverside parks to accommodate outdoor barbecues for the public.[36]
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China Xiamen A unique tradition is celebrated quite exclusively in the island city of Xiamen. On the festival, families and friends gather to play Bo Bing, a gambling sort of game involving 6 dice. People take turns in rolling the dice in a ceramic bowl with the results determining what they win. The number 4 is mainly what determines how big the prize is.[28]
Hong Kong and Macau
Lantern in Senado Square, Macau In Hong Kong and Macau, the day after the Mid-Autumn Festival is a public holiday rather than the festival date itself (unless that date falls on a Sunday, then Monday is also a holiday), because many celebration events are held at night. There are a number of festive activities such as lighting lanterns, but mooncakes are the most important feature there. However, people don't usually buy mooncakes for themselves, but to give their relatives as presents. People start to exchange these presents well in advance of the festival. Hence, mooncakes are sold in elegant boxes for presentation purpose. Also, the price for these boxes are not considered cheap—a four-mooncake box of the lotus seeds paste with egg yolks variety, can generally cost US$40 or more.[29] However, as environmental protection has become a concern of the public in recent years, many mooncake manufacturers in Hong Kong have adopted practices to reduce packaging materials to practical limits.[30] The mooncake manufacturers also explore in the creation of new types of mooncakes, such as ice-cream mooncake and snow skin mooncake.
There are also other traditions related to the Mid-Autumn Festival in Hong Kong. Neighbourhoods across Hong Kong set impressive lantern exhibitions with traditional stage shows, game stalls, palm readings, and many other festive activities. The grandest celebrations take place in Victoria Park (Hong Kong).[31] One of the brightest rituals is the Fire Dragon Dance dating back to the 19th century and recognised as a part of China's intangible cultural heritage.[32][33] The 200 foot-long fire dragon requires more than 300 people to operate, taking turns. The leader of the fire dragon dance would pray for peace, good fortune through blessings in Hakka. After the ritual ceremony, fire-dragon was thrown into the sea with lanterns and paper cards, which means the dragon would return to sea and take the misfortunes away.[33]
Before 1941, There were also some celebration of Mid-Autumn Festival held in small villages in Hong Kong. Sha Po would celebrate Mid Autumn Festival in every 15th day of the 8th Chinese lunisolar month.[34] People called Mid Autumn Festival as Kwong Sin Festival, they hold Pok San Ngau Tsai at Datong Pond in Sha Po. Pok San Ngau Tsai was a celebration event of Kwong Sin Festival, people would gather around to watch it. During the event, someone would play the percussions, Some villagers would then acted as possessed and called themselves as "Maoshan Masters". They burnt themselves with incense sticks and fought with real blades and spears.
Republic of China (Taiwan) In Taiwan, the Mid-Autumn Festival is a public holiday. Outdoor barbecues have become a popular affair for friends and family to gather and enjoy each other's company.[35] As of 2016, Taipei City designated 15 riverside parks to accommodate outdoor barbecues for the public.[36]
Ethnic minorities in China Korean minorities living in Yanbian Korean Autonomous Prefecture have a custom of welcoming the moon, where they put up a large conical house frame made of dry pine branches and call it a "moon house". The moonlight would shine inside for gazers to appreciate.[15] The Bouyei people call the occasion "Worshiping Moon Festival", where after praying to ancestors and dining together, they bring rice cakes to the doorway to worship the Moon Grandmother.[15] The Tu people practice a ceremony called "Beating the Moon", where they place a basin of clear water in the courtyard to reflect an image of the moon, and then "beat" the water surface with branches.[15] The Maonan people tie a bamboo near the table, on which a grapefruit is hung, with three lit incense sticks on it. This is called "Shooting the Moon".[15] Similar traditions outside China Similar traditions are found in other parts of Asia and also revolve around the full moon. These festivals tend to occur on the same day or around the Mid-Autumn Festival.
East Asia Japan Main article: Tsukimi The Japanese moon viewing festival, o-tsukimi (お月見, "Moon viewing"), is also held at this time. People picnic and drink sake under the full moon to celebrate the harvest. Ulthumbei (talk) 15:16, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
- Will do, you make an excellent point and it looks like the only reason its currently where it is is POV pushing. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 16:22, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
"August Moon" listed at Redirects for discussion
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