Talk:Michael Barker (drummer)

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Facebeef has recently launched several coordinated attacks on Wikipedia articles, please closely monitor all edits made, particularly those by IPs. YuMa NuMa ^Contrib 06:20, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Barker's lack of support for his son

If anyone had read the quote in the source you would see that the father does not support the son - he is quoted as saying "We leave each other alone and don't hurt one another and we give each other our space. Tristan is his own man now...I would say he is a ratbag." Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/womadelaide-keep-michael-barkers-the-swamp-thing-in-line-up-after-internet-troll-son-tristan-launches-hitler-campaign/story-e6frfro0-1226591411191#ixzz2PhGBypDe

I don't know if there are international differences in the definition of a "ratbag" but it really doesn't sound like support.

Beyond that, the entire drama about his son belongs in an article about his son, not hidden in Barker's article. That drama should be removed and placed in a separate article about Tristan. Otherwise it looks a lot likeWP:COATRACK going on here. Toddst1 (talk) 15:20, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: My reversions were in support of another user, on further review, the material is ambiguously if at all supportive of the written content. ♥ Solarra ♥ ^{♪ Talk ♪} ߷ _{♀ Contribs ♀} 15:25, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted the changes made by barkermichael based on this quote - "despite his support for his son's antics online", however upon further review, the source does contradict itself. As the other content in the section primarily focuses on Tristan barker and not his father, I guess it was rightfully removed. Despite this most of the content in that section was sourced, so I stand by what I said in my edit summary, though the inclusion of the content was questionable - . YuMa NuMa ^Contrib 15:41, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]