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Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
January 21, 2023Good article nomineeListed
April 19, 2023Peer reviewReviewed
April 24, 2023Featured article candidateNot promoted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on January 23, 2023.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Mercedes-Benz Vision EQXX (pictured) traveled more than 1,000 km (621 mi) from Sindelfingen to Cassis on a single charge with energy to spare?
Current status: Former featured article candidate, current good article

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk20:31, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Vision EQXX
The Vision EQXX

Created by X750 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:03, 10 January 2023 (UTC).[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: LunaEatsTuna (talk · contribs) 19:20, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio check

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Earwig says good to go. No concerns from me either. Quotations are used in-line with WP:COPYQUOTE and only short extracts.

Files

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All images relevant, good quality, and copyright-free:

  • File:Mercedes-Benz Vision EQXX 001.jpg: CC BY-SA 4.0, uploaded to Commons by registered user;
  • File:Mercedes-Benz Vision EQXX 002.jpg: CC BY-SA 4.0, uploaded to Commons by registered user.

Prose

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  • In the infobox, is "Production N/A" standard for articles about concept cars?
  • "and like its later EQA and EQB siblings it" – is siblings the right word? Please excuse me if this is car jargon.
  • "In October 2020, Mercedes introduced two dedicated electric vehicle platforms as part of a weekly strategy meeting, the Electric Vehicle Architecture (EVA), and the Mercedes-Benz Modular Architecture (MMA)" – May be personal taste, but I would turn the second comma into an em dash for improved readability, especially with the date at the beginning of the sentence.
  • "Mercedes would build an electric vehicle with a very long all-electric range" – is there a better word choice than very long?
  • "Later, this target was revised to 1,000 km (621 mi)." – recommend changing to "This target was later revised to 1,000 km (621 mi)."
  • "The structure of EQXX is said to incorporate" – why is said to?
  • "Mercedes has also partnered with several external companies for the technology present in the EQXX." – missing a citation.
  • The sentence starting "The cell-to-pack method of packaging" is a bit long. Could the size reductions part possibly be made its own sentence?
  • "should there be a need for extreme heat or intense climate control." – I would wikilink climate control.
  • "The EQXX also uses a 900-volt architecture, which allows for a lower amperage, which in turn allows for thinner cabling, reducing leakages due to Joule heating." – this sentence is awkward. Recommend rephrasing; maybe a full stop somewhere could help?
  • "Despite this capability, during the EQXX's long-range demonstration runs, the charging port was sealed to prevent tampering." – recommend "Despite this capability, the charging port was sealed during the EQXX's long-range demonstration runs to prevent tampering."
  • "other information about car vitals." – as I noted I am not an expert, but are these actually called car vitals?
  • "flush rear wheels" – is there no definition of flush on Wikipedia itself?
  • "are said to be much more aerodynamic than usual." – than usual? Could this be elaborated upon?

Refs

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All sources are either RS or used appropriately, for instance ref 21 is a press release but appears to be used within reason. Does not yet pass spotcheck—no concerns with refs 1, 10, 16, 24, 29, 37 or 41, but:

  • On ref 35, I could not see a mention of the tachometer.

Also:

  • The publication names for refs 5, 8, 16, 19 and 40 are in lowercase; is this correct?

Other

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Short description, navs, other templates and cats all good.

  • Add WP:ALT text to the images.


Fixes:

  • Re the "are said to be much more aerodynamic than usual" ---> I've replaced "than usual" with "compared to regular wing mirrors"
  • As for the flush, the closest thing I can find is Flush door, which is not quite what I was looking for
  • Car vitals point, yes, vitals are things such as tyre pressure, oil pressure (not relevant here), motor temperature etc.
  • I can simply delete the point about the tachometer. In the article, you can see a picture which has the tachometer around the speedometer. It is blurry, but there are videos with it. Simple fix.
  • Publication names, I tend to follow the stylisation on their websites. autoevolution, their logo is stylised in all lowercase, so I roll with that. Same with motor1 and autocar.
  • Can fix the charging port bit. No problem.
  • For the siblings, the EQA and EQB are different lines but both electric. The EQA line is sub-compact SUV, the EQB is a crossover SUV. The difference between the two is that the latter is slightly larger in terms of dimensions. I think siblings is an appropriate word.
  • Yeah that em dash thing could work.
  • Target revised sentence revised.
  • I said *said to* because Mercedes claim it to be. Quite frankly, I have no idea if it is true or not. I can remove that if you'd like.
  • I did not cite the several other companies because I mention the several other companies in the following paragraphs and sections. I can add one, if need be.
  • I can juggle up the cell-to-pack sentence
  • Wikilink climate control, done.
  • Voltage sentence changed.
  • Tampering sentence changed. X750. Spin a yarn? Articles I've screwed over? 23:58, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Explanation of cable heating loss

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Section Battery and powertrain says "thinner cabling reduces leakages caused by Joule heating". It's really rather the opposite: thinner cabling increases heating all things being equal, because its resistance would be higher. The right explanation is that the 900 V electrical distribution system allows lower current for a given power level, and it is the lower current which then allows the use of thinner cabling without unacceptable Joule heating losses. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:50, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Bri Hi Bri, does the mention of lower amperage in the preceeding clause not clarify this? Please let me know if this should still be changed. X750. Spin a yarn? Articles I've screwed over? 18:45, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If you mean the phrase that now reads (after my copyedit) "The EQXX also uses a 900-volt architecture, which allows for a lower electric current", no, sorry, I don't think this is sufficient and the statement that thinner cabling reduces losses is flat out wrong. High voltage reduces current, which is correctly stated, but then it should be restated by going on to say that reduced current allows reduced I2R losses in relatively thinner distribution cable. ☆ Bri (talk) 19:27, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Bri I've redone the section. Tell me what you think. X750. Spin a yarn? Articles I've screwed over? 19:55, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It looks pretty good now. I might go tweak it later after thinking about it some more. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:02, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]