Talk:Melissa Chiu
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[edit]A major contributor to this article (who has edited under more than one account name) appears to have a very clear conflict of interest here. Conflict-of-interest editors are strongly discouraged from editing the article directly, but are always welcome to propose changes on the talk page (i.e., here). You can attract the attention of other editors by putting {{request edit}} (exactly so, with the curly parentheses) at the beginning of your request, or by clicking the link on the lowest yellow notice above. Requests that are not supported by independent reliable sources are unlikely to be accepted.
Please also note that our Terms of Use state that "you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation." An editor who contributes as part of his or her paid employment is required to disclose that fact. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:09, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, I just wanted to let everyone know I've been in contact with staff at the Hirshhorn museum about the recent policy violations that happened around this article. I saw that the major COI offender (who was not a Smithsonian employee) has already been blocked. I've been talking with other Smithsonian and Hirshhorn staff to try and increase their awareness of about how to contribute in a way that maintains NPOV and avoids COI; I think you can expect them to make some edit requests and suggest reliable sources here in the coming days and weeks. Hopefully, in the end, we all learn something, and we end up with a high-quality biography of the director of one of D.C.'s most important museums. Sarasays (talk) 02:57, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- I think that user has probably learned their lesson, given this article.New Media Theorist (talk) 16:08, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Regarding the WaPo article: I think it is self-evident that the WaPo reference belongs here. This incident is signficiant enough to the Arts Community in Washington to be the subject of an article in this National Newspaper, so a reference to the debate belongs here. In fact, if you read the Comments below the WaPo reference, you see that many people are demanding a resignation from Melissa Chiu. This kind of hot debate surely meets Wikipedia standards for notability. If you disagree, please cite a Wikipedia policy. --Zeamays (talk) 16:16, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Agreed, the fact that the edits were made is why the stories were written, as opposed to other articles that merely mentioned Wikipedia. What part about it is objectionable? --AW (talk) 17:22, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Re-reading and mulling over WP:SUBJECT, I still think that the edit I made is WP:notable. However, I think it should more correctly be placed in the article on Chiu's husband, Benjamin Genocchio, since he was the editor who made the COI changes to this article reported by WaPo. --Zeamays (talk) 18:33, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- It belongs in both entries. Bangabandhu (talk) 14:21, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- Re-reading and mulling over WP:SUBJECT, I still think that the edit I made is WP:notable. However, I think it should more correctly be placed in the article on Chiu's husband, Benjamin Genocchio, since he was the editor who made the COI changes to this article reported by WaPo. --Zeamays (talk) 18:33, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Agreed, the fact that the edits were made is why the stories were written, as opposed to other articles that merely mentioned Wikipedia. What part about it is objectionable? --AW (talk) 17:22, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Regarding the WaPo article: I think it is self-evident that the WaPo reference belongs here. This incident is signficiant enough to the Arts Community in Washington to be the subject of an article in this National Newspaper, so a reference to the debate belongs here. In fact, if you read the Comments below the WaPo reference, you see that many people are demanding a resignation from Melissa Chiu. This kind of hot debate surely meets Wikipedia standards for notability. If you disagree, please cite a Wikipedia policy. --Zeamays (talk) 16:16, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- I think that user has probably learned their lesson, given this article.New Media Theorist (talk) 16:08, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Recent Profile in the Washington City Paper
[edit]A pretty comprehensive profile of the subject was published September 18, 2015 in the Washington City Paper. It would make a good source to help expand this article: "Melissa Chiu takes over the Hirshhorn" --Sarasays (talk) 17:36, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Proposed update to Museums section
[edit]The following proposed update adds a few references and info on position at the University of Western Sydney as well as the current name of the 4A Centre. The below updates would be made to the first paragraph under the Museums section. Thanks to everyone for working to make this a better article:
- I read through these proposed changes and citations. I believe that that they do improve the readability of the paragraph and the quality of the article overall, so I put them in the article. If anyone disagrees with this move, please let me know! I am aware of the concerns about Penelope1114's paid editor status, so I did not make this edit lightly or without due consideration. However, what matters to me in the end is a better encyclopedia, including more comprehensive coverage of the visual arts. If Penelope1114's work can fruitfully be harnessed to further that goal, I'll take it. -Sarasays (talk) 18:57, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
- I haven't carefully read through these edits, but I am concerned whether the sources are driving the content or if they're just window dressing to justify Chiu's/Penelope1114's preferred text. For example, "In 2001 she oversaw the Center's transition..." Unless I am missing it, I don't see anything in the SMH reference to say she oversaw the effort. She was the curator. Are there other differences between the sources and the text? Bangabandhu (talk) 01:33, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Chiu worked as an independent curator for several years at the beginning of her career.[1] From 1993-1996, she joined the University of Western Sydney Collection at the University of Western Sydney as a curator.[2] in 1996, Chiu collaborated with a group of Asian Australian artists, performers, filmmakers and writers to establish Gallery 4A, a nonprofit contemporary art center devoted to promoting dialogue in the Asia-Pacific region. Chiu was founding Director of Gallery 4A,[3] later renamed the 4A Centre for Contemporary Asian Art.[4][5] In 2001 she oversaw the Center's transition to a two-story city owned heritage building in Sydney’s Chinatown.[6] Penelope1114 (talk) 02:59, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
References
- ^ Melissa Chiu, Western Sydney University. "Alumni High Achievers". www.westernsydney.edu.au. Retrieved 2015-11-07.
- ^ "Art Insight #6: Profile of Melissa Chiu". brand.hyundai.com. Retrieved 2015-11-07.
- ^ "Chronicler of the Asian-Australian experience". www.smh.com.au. 2009-09-30. Retrieved 2012-09-19.
- ^ "ARTAND, Melissa Chiu to lead Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden". www.artandaustralia.com. Retrieved 2015-11-07.
- ^ "Location One, Melissa Chiu talks with Richard Bell". www.location1.org. Retrieved 2015-11-07.
- ^ "smh.com.au - The Sydney Morning Herald". Newsstore.smh.com.au. 2000-10-27. Retrieved 2012-09-19.
Done - Cwobeel (talk) 04:07, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
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