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Semi-protected edit request on 9 July 2024

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In the introduction, I propose adding a new line informing readers of her latest polled popularity among Royals. Meghan's popularity has fallen from well over 50% to just 30% in recent years. It would be biased not to inform readers of this substantial factual change. This is not intended to slander, but rather to inform factually of a significant change.

Propose adding:

Meghan's popularity among the UK public has declined significantly in recent years, according to opinion polls, where she now regularly ranks among the least popular members of the British Royal Family.

https://yougov.co.uk/ratings/politics/popularity/royalty/all Bhav92 (talk) 13:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article reads "In December 2022, Meghan was found to be the second most disliked member of the British royal family". It seems in June 2024, according to your yougov source, she is the third most disliked. I'm not seeing where in the source it supports the claim that her popularity has declined. I can only see that it supports she is currently one of the less popular royals. DrKay (talk) 09:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. PianoDan (talk) 14:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2024

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Megan Markle is a former member of the royal family. She is no longer apart of the royal family. 2603:8001:4700:A893:F152:8286:F06B:70F9 (talk) 05:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. Please also provide reliable sources that support your proposed edit. Aoi (青い) (talk) 06:57, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The official website says otherwise. Keivan.fTalk 15:57, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Article name

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The name of this article is neither the subject's legal name nor her common name and I propose changing it to "Meghan Markle" which is her common name and also a name she is legally entitled to use.

Per the Canadian government section on "Style of Address": "As the former Meghan Markle, “Princess Meghan”, “Meghan, Duchess of Sussex” or “Meghan” may be heard informally, but are not used officially."[2] She is correctly known as the Duchess of Sussex. Conveniently, that page redirects here.

I will put in a move request, but would appreciate any feedback. TFD (talk) 02:01, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is an odd thing to be fixated on, when 'Duchess of Sussex' is commonname (there is often not just one) and chosen name. Nor is it a surprise, when her husband and children are known as Sussex. Also, to rule on legal name for a BLP is another odd matter and Markle also is redirect and easy to find here too. Your link appears to not work or go to the right place, but as it is recognizing it is former name, it also seems no reason to move. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 16:30, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did not rule on what her legal name was, but provided a reliable source. (The link now works.)
Are you saying that the article should be moved to "Duchess of Sussex?" TFD (talk) 17:00, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
duchess of Sussex is fine to redirect here. Are you saying you object to putting Meghan with it? Your source does not object or seem offended by it, indeed it recognizes it might regularly be used. I don't think that source is discussing legal name at all nor would it, as it is discussing a matter of style in Canada and she is a resident of California who married in the UK. Alanscottwalker (talk) 17:07, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What criteria do you think should used for naming this article and which name best meets them? TFD (talk) 17:47, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The status quo is fine, it was no real surprise when it was chosen and it has served fine in the six years since. It is acceptable as commonname, and avoids former name.Alanscottwalker (talk) 17:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The name is perfectly fine and follows the guidelines set by WP:CONSISTENT (other examples include Catherine, Princess of Wales, Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh, Diana, Princess of Wales, Sarah, Duchess of York, Birgitte, Duchess of Gloucester, Katharine, Duchess of Kent). Wikipedia is not bound to follow legal principles and choose legal names as article titles, otherwise Lady Gaga's page would have been titled Stefani Germanotta. Additionally, we should not be fixing things that aren't broken. The current title has been in use for a long time now and was agreed upon through several RMs, the links to which can be found at the top of this page. There is also the matter of MOS:IDENTITY. The subject herself prefers to utilize her title and has not used the surname Markle since her marriage, a family name that is incidentally associated with her birth family from whom she's estranged. I don't know where this obsession with shoving maiden names down both Meghan and Catherine's throats comes from. Keivan.fTalk 03:38, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

double major

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The Northwestern University catalog from the years she attended describes that within the BA in Communications it's possible to obtain a minor in international studies. A double major would mean satisfying the requirements for a degree in international studies, which requies fluency in three languages etc. I know there are sources which seem to say she does have a double major, however it just isn't possible, not even in theater and international studies. I'm going to simplify the text just to say BA in communications. I know that some sources may say differently but it is absurd to include a clearly wrong fact just because it can be found in a news source.Createangelos (talk) 20:12, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This has been gone over before. It is not a minor in the catalogue, the catalogue calls in an adjunct major, and Northwestern itself referred to that and her degree with a double major.[3] And you offer nothing but your say so, and thus every reason to believe you are wrong not the sources, and Wikipedia follows sources, not what editors claim they think know. I have also removed your claim which violates WP:BLP. Alanscottwalker (talk) 20:49, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
News about alumni isn't reliable source since we would not expect the writer to check degree register.
Does the university provide a list of degree-holders with majors and minors? if so, it would be a reliable source for a claim about her degree.
it seems that a lot of analysis would be required to determine that no degree in international studies was available therefore she could not have majored in it. If you want to make that argument, you need a reliable source for it. TFD (talk) 05:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In this article, it is sourced to two newspapers, not to the Northwestern publication. (At any rate, Kristen Samuelson is the writer for Northwestern and what she does presently is here: [4], there is no reason doubt her based on any assumption, or that she and her editors were not conversant in acceptable terminology at or for the university.) But if you are saying we can't do any original research on this in primary sources, I agree. 'Not majored in it' would be a conclusion, editors can't draw on their own, and not even from 'no degree', double majors have one degree. And also not from what the OP thinks the 'proper' coursework is, or how the OP thinks the university should have been organized to provide it. Alanscottwalker (talk) 12:57, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]