Talk:Metro Manila Subway

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Did you know... that the proposed Mega Manila Subway would be the first subway system in the Philippines?

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Artist's impression

That "artist's impression" looks suspiciously like someone just put a filter over a Tokyo Metro Marunouchi Line train. Most Japanese speakers could even make out the destination sign saying "池袋" or "Ikebukuro" which is the northern terminus of the aforementioned line. Just wanted to point that out. UhFrenchFries (talk) 09:50, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The artist's impression came from DOTr themselves, so it can be used as an image in the meantime. ITSQUIETUPTOWN talk • contribs 12:29, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Itsquietuptown: the image is now on deletion at Commons. Please state your inputs there instead. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 05:32, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 31 May 2020

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The result of the move request was: moved (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 16:31, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Metro Manila Subway Line 9 → Metro Manila Subway – Article is unilaterally moved to the current title including line number assigned by the Department of Transportation (DOTr). I still see sources that simply call this the Metro Manila Subway, so the present name fails WP:COMMONNAME. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 05:04, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support. In 2020, the most common name for this train line is the one excluding which line it is. By a landslide. Howard the Duck (talk) 05:26, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Same case as the Makati Subway, although it has an assigned number, the name 'Metro Manila Subway' is still by far the most common name. Itsquietuptown t • c 06:59, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support this revert of undiscussed unnecessary disambiguation. However, Metro Manila subway would be better; news sources tend to cap Subway in "Metro Manila Subway Project", the project name, but not so often in "Metro Manila subway" without Project. Dicklyon (talk) 17:18, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think "Metro Manila subway" would be a good title for a system article about the subway network that will include this, another within Makati city, and future expansions that we don't know until they're revealed by the Philippine gov't. "Subway" is part of the project's proper name (and also serve as natural disambiguation once we have a system article), so it's fine to keep it in caps. -TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 21:19, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

None of the occurrences of "Metro Manila subway" that I find refer to anything but this project. I would not think that would be an appropriate title for a larger network. Dicklyon (talk) 01:23, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To be exact, How many sources use the all-caps name? We can be fine if it's a large majority of 75% or so.-TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 01:41, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm seeing 5:5 on the first page of 10 news hits at this search; it may vary. Dicklyon (talk) 04:59, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support We could mention Line 9 in the lead and the infobox. The identifier Subway should be left capitalized. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 08:05, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 7 June 2020

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) ~SS49~ {talk} 02:18, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Metro Manila Subway → Metro Manila subway – About half of sources, including some of the cited sources, treat subway as a generic descriptor, not part of a proper name, so per MOS:CAPS and WP:NCCAPS we should use lowercase for that. I tried to make this point in the previous RM discussion, but not many respondents saw that, and the closer igored it, so let's discuss. Dicklyon (talk) 23:49, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Astonishingly, Oppose - I thought this wasn't it's proper name, but it appears to be the name of the system even in the local language? Red Slash 04:45, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose It looks like common name used is 'Subway' instead of 'subway': (DOTr, Bangkok Post, Manila Times, Inquirer). Itsquietuptown t • c 12:58, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Itsquietuptown. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 04:24, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – current formal proper name for the ongoing approved project is "Metro Manila Subway Project Phase 1", as cited by the Department of Transportation. Chihciboy (talk) 06:09, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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111.95.4.142's non-constructive edits

An anonymous user with the IP address 111.95.4.142 has been repeatedly inserting {{Track gauge|1067mm|lk=on}} to the infobox despite already explicitly stated by JICA that the government will not build the subway in the 1067 mm narrow gauge, and will instead use the wider standard gauge. The technical document for the subway is already stated in the source within the infobox.

Since I do not have permissions to prevent this user from committing such misleading edits to the article, the best I can do is to place a warning message stating that "unless you could provide a source, do not revert this to 1067 mm gauge". Despite the warnings, this user ignores them and continues reverting edits without placing any sources proving their point. Can someone among the staff please make an action to this user so that they do not mislead people about the technical specifications of the line? Other lines such as MRT Line 10 (Metro Manila), Makati Intra-city Subway, as well as the page for the entire Manila Metro Rail Transit System and the North–South Commuter Railway has also been erroneously edited by them. Thanks.

Raku Hachijo (talk) 11:47, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Raku Hachijo: This IP also has done the same changes to this and the Makati subway article: 139.192.226.219. You should consider reporting the IP[s] involved to WP:AIV, and this article semi-protected due to vandalism at WP:RFPP. I’ll also undo changes those IPs have done to 3 ft 6 in gauge railways that added this to one of the rail systems using the gauge. -TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 00:39, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I will consider reporting it there. Raku Hachijo (talk) 10:18, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

IP’s back again, and I’ve asked the page for 3 ft 6 in gauge railways to be semi-protected. Why don’t WP:RFPP this? Edits may not be vandalism as it seems, but a content dispute based on outdated official sources. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 19:03, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

April 2021 update: This time it isn't a simple content dispute. The IP back at it again, and went as far as changing the quotation I placed that the Subway to put their claim in their favor. The IP associated with them has. At this point I'll consider this as vandalism. Raku Hachijo (talk) 09:12, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Additional comment: I was thinking of adding an image source to Commons at this point since the documents are government property anyway (which are classified as public domain under Philippine law). The point is the user will not find it easy to revert my edit to their claim of narrow gauge because they need to register to upload to Commons. Raku Hachijo (talk) 09:17, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Do we need a column for barangays and districts in the Route section?

Only this page appears to have a column for the barangays and districts of the city/municipality that the stations are in. Do we need to have that column? Ganmatthew (talk) 16:42, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not opposed, and I know Pasay's barangays are microscopic, but don't they also have informal named neighborhoods like Malibay and Bay City, instead of using "District 1"?. What neighborhood does the station fall under? Howard the Duck (talk) 20:43, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Line 9

Is the Subway really designated as MRT Line 9? I've seen the reference on the page and the source comes from an unofficial Facebook source. Can anyone link me any official sources that stated that this line is labelled as MRT-9 or Line 9, because I have yet to find any? RPC7778 (talk) 02:16, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Naming of stations

For this line, if there are similar stations named elsewhere, the nomenclature is "Tandang Sora station (Metro Manila Subway)" (see also "EDSA station (LRT)" and EDSA station (PNR)"). Shall I suggest to use "Tandang Sora subsway station", "EDSA LRT station", and EDSA PNR station" instead. If we're disambiguating, I think WP:NATDIS is preferred than parenthetical ones. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:39, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]