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Shopping Centers

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Infobox

I put an infobox in. This was subsequently immediately deleted. I think these infoboxes provide a useful standardised summary of centres.

Firstly it provided new infromation that a number of other centres have and Meadowhall didnt. Secondly it provides a quick reference point for all centres. This makes it easy to see, for example, accurately which centre is the biggest. Hopefully the end effect would be that the whole encyclopedia will be more accurate. It strikes me that there are a number of errors regarding shopping centre size. For example this article claimed the Trafford Centre was bigger it is not. There also appear to be a number of articles that claim to be the biggest shopping centre in the UK. Using a standardised box, using retail floor area it is easier for uzsers themselves to judge which centre is the biggest.

What do others think?

Idf 18:00, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox are more of an eyesore than anything useful or pleasing. I deleted your infobox as I think it makes the article rather nasty and deters attention to the article. If you wish to add an Infobox, migrate the whole article in it. If not, delete it, as it's ugly. Standardising is just an excuse for inserting fancy Infoboxes, which really add nothing to most articles. If you are incapable of actually typing an article you should think why an Infobox would be more suited. I left your data regarding Trafford's claiming of being a bigger shopping centre. If you feel the need to compare, create an article with a listing of all shopping centres with tables and diagrams. This was until recently a pleasing article to read. Regards, Captain scarlet 18:40, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you object to it I'll leave it. IMHO an infobox is a useful place to present standard data that people can quickly glance at if they are not prepared to read the whole article. IMHO its a lot about how people read text on the web/screen: People arent looking to read a long essay. In terms of standardisation I think a point still stands.

Regards Idf 19:03, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

the main problem is that 1/ infoboxes aren't nice. 2/ This article is that short that there is not much put in it. 3/ infoboxes shoudl only be used when they don't shadow the article. You shouldn't add infoboxes if you're replacing the article, it would negate the point of the article itself and a warrant its deletion.

This article would look a lot nicer with photos, perhaps a chart or something, it looked really not nice just then, sorry. I wouldn't be making a fuss if i didn't honneslty think so. I acknowledge your respect of my decision, cheers, Captain scarlet 19:10, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I intend to reinstate the infobox if I can find it. Captain scarlet seems to be imposing his own personal aesthetic views on infoboxes here. They are present for most other articles on big shopping malls/centres. They are very useful in providing an at-a-glance summary for someone who doesn't want to actually read the whole article. Exile 13:49, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

At that's not imposing your views. Not everyone thinks an online encyclopedia goes with infoboxland. Many articles are much more readable without. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 17:33, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Fair use rationale for Image:Meadowhall logo.png

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Off to a crap start...

"Meadowhall is an indoor shopping centre in the Sheffield, South Yorkshire, England. "

Above is the opening sentence as I found it. Sheffield is not 'the Sheffield'. I've sorted this. DanTheShrew (talk) 13:24, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is probably due to this edit. ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 15:19, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strange piece of art / attraction

I vaguely recall having watched a documentary some years ago about a weird piece of art / an attraction that was commissioned for the Meadowhall and either never appeared there or did so but not for long. Anyone who might know what I'm thinking of is welcome to drop a line to my talk page! --Dweller (talk) 16:14, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Public Art in Sheffield website is the best bet for this kind of query. Of the pieces listed for Meadowhall, only one has been removed: Red River. Could this be the one? Warofdreams talk 01:33, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nice, try. But I think this is it. It was a massive automaton display, named the Ride of life. It was never actually installed. --Dweller (talk) 09:33, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed move?

I was wondering if this ought to be renamed to Meadowhall Centre? I realise that it has only fairly recently been moved to Meadowhall Shopping Centre (at my request) but I believe following a little digging that this is the official name for it (per this guide, which has Meadowhall Centre as the copyright) and was suggested at the last move. However, everywhere in the prose it is refered to simply as Meadowhall, as it is on the [British Land website. Should we name the article by it's official name, or that which will be more familiar to wiki readers?

Nobody has countered in a week, so off it goes! L.J.Skinner^{wot|I did} 12:26, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PR Edits

This article would appear to be subject to edits which seek to remove, negative comments about the center that have references and add large chunks of PR Blur Updates to facts and figures with sources are OK if referenced by reliable external sources (not PR). Wikipedia policies on conflict of interest WP:COI may be applicable, The Environmental section reads as if straight from a PR publication so may be WP:Copyvio or be classed as WP:Advert.

Comment from other editors requested or is it a revert (as other edits made since by other editors) - --BulldozerD11 (talk) 13:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Meadowhalls size position.

In the article it states that it is the sixth largest. When you follow the link it is the 5th largest. Which is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.172.225.217 (talk) 10:59, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Investigate red-links to see if articles exist under other title / capitalisation
Switch references to use {{Cite}} templates with more detail on access date etc completed
Requires copy-edit for WP:MOS

Keith D (talk) 23:28, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

== WP Sheffield ==

rated as a C class as;

has info box
has photos
has plan
has some inline citations
but some copy edit required to eviromental section and wiki linking
is a bit POV / advert like in places

BulldozerD11 (talk) 23:13, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 23:13, 25 September 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 23:34, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 16 February 2017

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The result of the move request was: moved to Meadowhall (shopping centre). Jenks24 (talk) 07:14, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Meadowhall Centre → Meadowhall – The shopping centre is commonly known simply as "Meadowhall", as per its own website and logo, and indeed the lead sentence of the article. It is clearly the primary topic for the name. The existing dab page does not need to be retained as - other than the shopping centre - it mentions only the surrounding area of Sheffield (which has no article of its own) and various transport connections, which are covered on the separately existing Meadowhall station dab page anyway. Jellyman (talk) 21:40, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - malformed, target is a dab page. Move to Meadowhall (shopping centre) if needed. In ictu oculi (talk) 20:02, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Meadowhall (shopping centre). Laurdecl ^talk 22:31, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Meadowhall, Meadowhall (shopping centre) or Meadowhell^(lol). I've never it called "Meadowhall Centre". -- AxG / ✉ 11:32, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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