Talk:Mead in Poland
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[edit]Passed for B-class for WP:POLAND. I wonder if we could take it to WP:GAN? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:39, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Miodówka
[edit]Medovukha article claims that it is known in Poland as miodówka. Should it be mentioned here somehow? Is it another name for the same drink, a subtype of miód pitny or a different thing? --Off-shell (talk) 20:17, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
- It's a great question, Off-shell. The Medovukha article doesn't cite any sources and I can't tell you off-hand how much of what it says is true. The Медовуха article in Russian Wikipedia does cite some sources and it says that this drink is made from fermented honey (like mead), but I didn't quite understand how it differs from сыта. Polish miodówka is actually a different thing, grain alcohol flavored with honey. Then again, I'm not sure how it differs from krupnik.
- So it looks like we've got some research to do. You could help with Russian sources, I will try to find something in Polish ones. — Kpalion(talk) 06:28, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
- OK. The Russian articles say that syta (сыта) is an ancient non-alcoholic drink, it is simply honey diluted in water. In contrast, medovukha is a fermented honey drink (like mead). There are many varieties of medovukha, and some versions may have been non-alcoholic, may be identical to syta. But typically, medovukha is made of syta with yeast or kvass and/or berries and/or hop added and thus fermented. Some versions are fortified with additional grain alcohol (like fortified wine). Some fortified versions may even reach very high alcohol concentration (30-40% and even higher). --Off-shell (talk) 22:22, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
- So medovukha is a Russian variant of mead. It's not the same as the Polish miodówka, which is a kind of honey-flavored vodka, similar to krupnik (I'm still not sure what the difference is, if any; maybe they're regional names for the same thing). Perhaps it would be helpful to put a navigation template like the one below on all related articles, so that one can see at one glance which drinks are made from fermented honey (even if they're fortified with grain alcohol) and which are simply grain alcohol flavored with unfermented honey (miodówka does not have its own article, so it's not included). What do you think? — Kpalion(talk) 13:19, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
- OK. The Russian articles say that syta (сыта) is an ancient non-alcoholic drink, it is simply honey diluted in water. In contrast, medovukha is a fermented honey drink (like mead). There are many varieties of medovukha, and some versions may have been non-alcoholic, may be identical to syta. But typically, medovukha is made of syta with yeast or kvass and/or berries and/or hop added and thus fermented. Some versions are fortified with additional grain alcohol (like fortified wine). Some fortified versions may even reach very high alcohol concentration (30-40% and even higher). --Off-shell (talk) 22:22, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
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- Looks good for me, though I know the subject too badly to make a qualified judgement. --Off-shell (talk) 16:41, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
- Alright, I'll go ahead and make the changes. Thanks for bringing this up! — Kpalion(talk) 16:49, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
- Looks good for me, though I know the subject too badly to make a qualified judgement. --Off-shell (talk) 16:41, 30 June 2017 (UTC)