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Former good articleMauritius women's national football team was one of the Sports and recreation good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
April 26, 2012Good article nomineeListed
February 5, 2023Good article reassessmentDelisted
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on April 23, 2012.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that while Mauritius has a senior women's national football team, they have not played in a single FIFA sanctioned game?
Current status: Delisted good article

DYK prep

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Note: Give credit to User:Bar Code Symmetry for fantastic help. :) --LauraHale (talk) 21:14, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination

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GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Mauritius women's national football team/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Arsenikk (talk · contribs) 15:57, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
  • The lead is very short (even for such a short article). Specifically, I would like to have seen which two teams were played with the corresponding matches.
  • Full names of CAF and COSAFA (FIFA being abbreviated is fine).
  • "current" is a very problematic world on Wikipedia. I would recommend that instead use "Alain Jules has been coach since YYYY".
  • "As of January 2013"? is the year correct?
    • Erk. Yes? Basically, as of now, they are not scheduled to play any FIFA recognised matches. These matches are often set up long in advance, with draws for tournaments being chosen 6 months to a year in advance. They haven't played in any matches either. --LauraHale (talk) 10:26, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 4 needs a page number (it is 220 pages long).
  • "three nation tournament" should be "three-nation tournament"
  • Who did Mauritius play in 2002?
    • Honestly couldn't tell you. I've looked and looked for sources and just not there. :( I've clarified to say this match was not FIFA recognised match as it doesn't appear on the recognised match list. --LauraHale (talk) 10:43, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I count three matches, but the lead says two.
  • Why were the games only 80 minutes. As far as I am aware, this is not common in women's football.
    • It isn't standard anywhere. It isn't normal, which is why the length of the game is worth mentioning. Not sure why it was this way as the sources do not say. :( There is a real paucity of sources. :( I can't find anything really beyond what the article cites. Given the few FIFA recognised matches, this does not entirely surprise me though. --LauraHale (talk) 10:43, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • The entire second paragraph under history needs a copyedit for punctuations. There are just too few commas for it to be comfortable to read.
  • De-link 'Mauritius' where it is bold
  • Any reason 'Madagascar' isn't linked?
  • "supposed to have" is not particularly formal. Perhaps use the term "has scheduled to", "agreed to" or similar.
  • Three issues with the fragment "with ten teams agreeing to send teams including". First, stick a comma before "including". Second, I could twelve teams. Third, if the list is complete, use the term "consisting of" instead of "including", as including implied or at least leaves open the question of whether the list is complete.
  • It would be more logical if the unplayed tournaments were presented chronologically.
  • "African based" should be "African-based"
  • Who was the coach while the games were actually played? How about a list of players?
    • If I had one, I would include it. Cannot find this. (Or for that matter, any of the articles about African teams I have nominated for GA where it isn't in the article.) --LauraHale (talk) 11:11, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • 'Ranked' links to "FIFA World Ranking", but should link to "FIFA Women's World Rankings"
  • I am a bit uncertain of the heading "Background". Although I understand and agree with the scope of the section, to me background is either an out-of-scope introduction or a preamble, a way of putting the article into context. Perhaps "recruitment" or "organization" would be better?
    • Changed to include both? The goal is the section is to largely contextualise the previous section to give background on why they only played two FIFA recognised matches. --LauraHale (talk) 11:11, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • As both the "see also" links are in the navbox, the section should be removed.

I was not aware of the poor state of African women's football. Interesting article and hopefully soon there will be a lot more to write about them. Placing the article on hold until the above issues have been resolved. Arsenikk (talk) 15:57, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. The few games played, and the location of the team mean few sources exist and those that do are hard to access. I think all your concerns have been addressed. Thank you for the review. --LauraHale (talk) 11:24, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nice work! Congratulations with a good article. Arsenikk (talk) 20:53, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Errors fixed

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  • All references to the 2005 tournament were erased, as this was an U-18 tournament run by CJSOI and did not feature full national teams (which the Wikipedia article refers to). There have been other editions of this tournament in which Mauritius has participated, but as the article does not pertain to U-18 national teams, it doesn't seem correct to mention them here.
  • Added news of Mauritius' first match against Réunion on 3rd June 2012.
  • Removed "no indication that tournament took place" reference with regard to 2005 COSAFA Women's Championship. A simple glance at the linked source above would have allowed the previous editor to see that the tournament did actually take place the following year. Fixed the source to reflect this.
  • Deleted reference to tournaments that Mauritius has not played in. Mauritius has not played in ANY tournament, therefore, the list should technically be a lot longer than it was if it were to mention all tournaments that Mauritius has not played in. It seems pointless to mention just 2 editions of tournaments from the many hundreds that are possible, especially as it is evident from the article that Mauritius has played only one match in their entire history.Mcruic (talk) 02:51, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • The supposed match played in 2002, and shown in FIFA's documentation, is an error. There was no such match as can be seen by searching FIFA's matches database on FIFA.com. No Mauritius matches are listed at all.

African women's national football team pages

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Not sure exactly where to put this comment, but in general, most of these articles need a thorough edit. Some of them are written very clumsily and others have factual errors. Also, the infoboxes are not consistent for all team pages, with some having information that others lack. This particular page, for example, has information about "sub-confederation", which for some reason precedes the information about "confederation", which is higher up in terms of hierarchy. I'd be willing to help improve these articles, if I have enough time, as I have carried out quite extensive research on women's international football over the last few years. Mcruic (talk) 03:06, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply] 

--LauraHale (talk) 20:44, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I can only speak for the articles I edit, but the subconfederation part is how the infobox work. Clumsy writing is my problem for a number of articles because my writing is that way. I'm of the opinion of factually accurate, supported by sources and clumsy writing over no information. : / Outside of me, I don't think there are really is anyone working on these articles. Infoboxes that I've done I have tried to be as consistent as possible with but not always the case. I think I spent the better part of three months creating a lot of those wanted articles. : / Your best bet for additional help is probably to ask for help over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football‎.
That's all very well. But I wasn't asking for help - I was offering it (if required). I spent the best part of 3 months researching solely women's international football results. Consequently, my results database is more accurate than FIFA's. The problem is, FIFA's database is taken as factual, when in actual fact it contains a number of errors, which they have acknowledged (although not publicly). Mcruic (talk) 14:17, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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GA Reassessment

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Delisting as article fails GAR criteria 1a, 1b, and 2c, as shown below. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 18:20, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Mauritius women's national football team/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

I will be reassessing this article to determine whether it still meets the Good Article criteria. Any user is encouraged to assist in improving the article to keep it up to GA standards. Thanks. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 20:54, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. See issues below.
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. Lists and sections are not supposed to be empty, of course, and there are many examples of this. The sections "Results and fixtures", "Players", and "Records" are all empty and most are orange-tagged as a result. The "Coaching staff" section has only one piece of information, given twice, with no indication of when he took the position and no names of his predecessors. There are two empty lists within the "Players" section as well. I am also not convinced of the need for results tables for tournaments such as the World Cup, Olympics, Cup of Nations, and African Games given Mauritius has never qualified for any of them.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. Ref 4 has no title, only "Archived copy", Ref 7 is a dead link and Refs 8 and 11 need more information besides just the title of the source.
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
2c. it contains no original research. "Competitive record" has no citations, and the last sentence and a half of the "History" section need referencing too.
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. Earwig is offline so AGF.
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. Team logo is fair use.
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. Team logo is relevant.
7. Overall assessment.

Issues with criterion 1a

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Lead

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  • "As of 2012 the head coach is Yves-Pierre Bodineau" → recommend replacing with "Since 2012", given that "as of" sounds like the information was correct at the last point someone checked rather than that the information has been correct since that time

History

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  • "In 1985, almost no country in the world had a women's national football team" → "In 1985, very few countries had a women's national football team"
  • "As of January 2013, the team had not played in, nor have they scheduled, any FIFA sanctioned matches." → this statement needs updating, as it is potentially nine years out of date. Also I believe "FIFA-sanctioned" needs a hyphen and FIFA should be linked here
  • "Mauritius was scheduled to compete in several competitions" → repetitive, I'd suggest "take part in" instead of "compete"
  • "The list includes the 2002 Confederation of Southern African Football Associations women's tournament in Harare, Zimbabwe from which they withdrew" → the abbreviation for COSAFA is already given in the link so it can be used here.
  • "In 2005, Zambia was supposed to host a regional Council of Southern Africa Football Associations (COSAFA) women's football tournament" → just use "COSAFA" here, same reason as above
  • "As of 2012, the head coach was Alain Jules" → this contradicts with the lead and infobox, which state that the head coach is Yves-Pierre Bodineau
  • "As of March 2012, the team was not ranked in the world by FIFA, as it had not yet participated in any matches against other FIFA members. By June 2020, they were bottom of the FIFA rankings" → Are they ranked or not? These two sentences contradict

Recruitment and organisation

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  • First paragraph is not specific to Mauritius
  • "As of 2009, there was no national or regional women's competition but a school competition existed" → Potentially 13 years out of date
  • "none of them played even one international match" → unnecessary stress here, just say "none of them played an international match"
  • "10% of the money from the FIFA Financial Assistance Programme" → avoid starting a sentence with a figure per MOS:NUMNOTES; suggest changing "10%" to "Ten percent"
  • "FIFA Financial Assistance Programme (FAP)" → "FAP" abbreviation is not used again, and therefore does not need to be given here
  • "Between 1991 and 2010 in Mauritius, there was no FIFA FUTURO III regional course for women's coaching, no women's football seminar held in the country and no FIFA MA course held for women/youth football" → no information or context is given as to what "FIFA FUTURO III" and "FIFA MA" are

Results and fixtures

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  • Sole meaningful content in this section is an inappropriate external link

Players

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  • "The following players were named on date month year for the xxx tournament. tournament" → for the what?
  • "Caps and goals accurate up to and including 30 October 2021" → not accurate since nothing is listed

Records

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  • "*Active players in bold, statistics correct as of 31 August 2021" → again not accurate because the information being referred to here is not presented

See also

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  • "Women's football in Mauritius", "Mauritius women's national under-20 football team", and "Mauritius women's national under-17 football team" are not needed here because they do not link to anything
Removed. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:45, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Made a few changes

I had a look at the Earwing result - all seems fine - there's a 77.9% match with this but it looks like that's a backwards copy. I looked at the next two matches (3.8% and 2.0% and had no concerns). I've made a couple of the easier changes, but don't intend to work through all the rest of the points. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:50, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Pierre-Yves Bodineau as coach

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"ASSEMBLÉE NATIONALE — SÉLECTIONS NATIONALES DE FOOTBALL: Deux entraîneurs volontaires à la barre", December 3, 2017, Le Mauricien (Port Lewis, Mauritius), Author/Byline: Week-End - via NewsBank: Reports that the coaches of both the men's and women's national football teams were volunteers, appointed by the MFA for two-year terms. "Tandis que pour la sélection féminine c'est le duo Pierre-Yves Bodineau et Mahen Sollick qui est responsable ... [the men's coach] est en place depuis août 2017 et que le Français Pierre-Yves Bodineau lui, est en fonction depuis septembre dernier." Hoepfully someone fluent in French can confirm whether this means since September 2016 or September 2017. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:43, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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