Talk:Matthew and Son

Question about personnel on the album

As far as I am aware, having written a sizeable chunk of the Cat Stevens article, Alun Davies was not part of Stevens' backing band in any sense of the word until he recorded on Island Records/A&M Records in 1970 with their first album being Mona Bone Jakon. Would someone please check and see who his producer Mike Hurst from Deram Records paired him with for his two albums on Decca? I'm quite sure it is not Alun Davies. Thanks.--Leahtwosaints (talk) 19:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

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GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Matthew and Son/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: VirreFriberg (talk · contribs)

Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 02:51, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

I am taking up this review, but if VirreFriberg does not return within 7 days, I will fail it; the nominator is welcome in that event to resubmit after making changes. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:51, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @Sammi Brie. I've gone over the article and changed the noted issues. (Upped the brightness of the trade-ad too, something which won't go into effect for a few days). VirreFriberg (talk) 12:32, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Some ref cleanup but a bunch of copy changes, one of which is an issue that was pretty pervasively wrong. Ping me when done. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:57, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Did you know? If you fancy doing so, I always have plenty of GA nominees to review. Just look for the all-uppercase titles in the Television section. Reviews always appreciated.

Copy changes

• Stevens' should be Stevens's per MOS:'S. Many instances in this article are not possessives and should just be "Stevens".

Lead

• Add a comma after "at the time"

Background

• This needs more hyphens and should be then-17-year-old
• Remove the "however" to improve sentence flow
• Add comma after "fledgling label" and another after "surprise success"
• Inspiritation or inspiration?
• "other sources claims"

Composition

• between two chords, E minor and C while the Add a comma after C to complete the appositive
• Hyphenate "working class" or, better yet, "employers of the working class".
• Remove comma after "aren't characters" (WP:CINS)

Release

• "According to hurst" forgot to capitalize
• need a "the" before "BBC Light Programme"
• "Matthew and Son" entered the UK's Record Retailer chart on 18 January 1967 at a position of number 33, before peaking at number two on 8 February remove the comma or the word "before"
• "the Monkees" can take a possessive: the Monkees' "I Am a Believer"
• "Matthew and Son" also saw some chart success which was primarily fueled add a comma after "success"
• in New Zealand it reached number one on the charts, while peaking at number two and three in South Africa and Rhodesia remove unneeded comma
• "Bubbling" should be capitalized
• add "it" between "though" and "did"

Reception

• Should past-tense reception be past-tense in the article instead of present?
• the staff reviewer take note of the lyrics needs fixing
• a song from the musical West Side Story that Stevens took inspiration from maybe a song from the musical West Side Story from which Stevens took inspiration

Sourcing and spot checks

• Does the Personnel section have a source?

• 2: Cannot verify as Charlesworth is an offline source. However, the author seems authoritative on the topic.
• 29: Disc and Music Echo for the peak on the UK charts (2). Y
• 37: South Africa charts information shows peak of 2, 10 weeks on chart. Y
• 42: Another offline source.
• 51: The quote should be "healthy reputation", not "healthy reputation for his records". The source reads "...healthy reputation his platters had already started to create". Y
• 55: See 2.
• 64: Singapore chart with a peak of 5. The page number should be changed to 71, PDF page 67. Y

No Earwig issues: mostly flags attributed quotes.

Images

The article has four images. One is a record sleeve with NFUR. The Sound and Vision Wiki image appears to be one of the ones with CC licensing. The ad without copyright notice is OK, though it'd be wonderful if it could be lightened so the white areas aren't dark gray in color. (that's an Encouragement, not required at GA.) The Glastonbury image is also CC-licensed. Encouragement: Add alt text.

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