Talk:El retablo de maese Pedro

Title

This is the most common English language title of the opera. --DrG 18:14, 2005 Jun 21 (UTC)

For the sake of others, here is the move history of this page. It was created by DrG at Master Pedro's Puppet Show. I moved it to El retablo de Maese Pedro. DrG then moved it to Master Peter's Puppet Show.

I disagree that either of the English titles is more commonly used in English-speaking countries. Here's Google, for one example.

El retablo de Maese Pedro (original title) : 1,710 English pages [1]

Master Pedro's Puppet Show: 40 English pages [2]

Master Peter's Puppet Show: 666 English pages [3]

But I don't think that this is the end of the world, since redirects will bring people to the page anyway, even if it doesn't fit the proposed naming guidelines at Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera, so I won't fight for it to be moved anytime soon. Cheers. --Baron Larf 12:44, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

I agree that it should be under the Grove title: 'El retablo de maese Pedro'. This also avoids the Pedro/Peter confusion. --Klein zach 23:11, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Plagiarised content needs rewriting

I have changed the title of the former section "Score and music sample" to "Musical analysis". (There is no music sample in the article) More importantly, a large paragraph was taken verbatim from Joseph Horowitz, Celebrating Don Quixote Program Notes, Brooklyn Philharmonic 2003/2004 season. I have now put that in quotes and referenced it, although it should ideally be re-written. I suspect large chunks of prose elsewhere in that section are also lifted from one or more sources. Notably [4] and possibly the article in Musical Quarterly. (I can't access the latter as I don't have a subscription). Voceditenore (talk) 07:08, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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La Mancha de Aragón

Someone has changed my edit here, with good intentions to be sure, but it's not right and I don't know enough about WP markup to fix it. The script, as well as Cervantes' original text (Don Quixote, Part II, Chapter 25) says that the action takes place in "La Mancha de Aragón" - not "La Mancha" (which it said before I edited it) and not "La Mancha de Montearagón", which Spanish WP uses as its main entry, with an automatic redirect from "Mancha de Aragón" (not "La Mancha de Aragón"), which it says is an alternative name for the place. (To be precise, Cervantes' text says "esta Mancha de Aragón".)

The term "La Mancha de Aragón" should be used in the article, with link to Spanish article "La Mancha de Montearagón". That's what I set up, I don't know why it was changed, presumably it was wrong in formatting somehow. I can't change it back except to the way I originally had it. I don't know any other way to do it. Would someone more knowledgeable please fix it. Thank you.deisenbe (talk) 10:51, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit used this construct: "[[:es:La Mancha de Montearagón|La Mancha de Aragón]]" which renders as "La Mancha de Aragón". This construct is undesirable for several reasons and I changed it to {{ill|es|La Mancha de Montearagón}} which renders as La Mancha de Montearagón [es]. What do these two constructs do? The first links directly to an article on the Spanish Wikipedia, es:La Mancha de Montearagón but displays the text "La Mancha de Aragón". The second construct links to the same Spanish article, La Mancha de Montearagón, and displays that also as text. The assumption is, that when that article should ever get created on the English Wikipedia, it will have the same name. Note that both constructs link to the same Spanish article. It was in fact the Spanish REDIRECT at es:Mancha de Aragón which persuaded me that this was an appropriate link target. If you think the displayed text should be "La Mancha de Aragón" but still link to the same Spanish article, this construct will do that: {{ill|es|La Mancha de Montearagón|La Mancha de Montearagón|La Mancha de Aragón}} which renders as La Mancha de Aragón [es]. Explanation: the first and second title is the article name for the English and Spanish Wikipedia, the third is an arbitrary string to be displayed. Would you prefer that to appear in this article? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:01, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes that would be preferable. Thank you. I tried to implement myself what you indicated but the preview came out wrong. I'd appreciate it if you would do that.deisenbe (talk) 12:12, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK, fixed it now. Please verify deisenbe (talk) 12:22, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

All good. Cheers, -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:48, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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