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Atbk ugotit I'm posting here to explain why I reverted your addition. I recognise that you are new, but I'd like you to take the time to read BLP and OR, especially the section on SYNTH carefully. Your text asserted that the subject of this BLP acted in a manner that was not consistent with the law, but I did not see anything in any of your sources supporting that assertion. We need to be very careful whenever we make an assertion of that nature about people, and have rock-solid sourcing. If there was some finding against the institution that he is in charge of, that is not the same as a finding against him personally, and there is no reason to mention it on this page (although you could potentially make a case for including it in our article about that institution). From the sources you provided though, I saw nothing to support even an assertion that the institution had not acted in accordance with the law - only that another body was taking action against them.

In short, then, this material does not seem to me to be suitable for inclusion. If I have misunderstood something please let me know - but make sure you have read the BLP guidelines carefully before responding, as they apply on talk pages just as they do in articles - you need to be careful of what you say about people anywhere on this site. Best GirthSummit _(blether) 19:06, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to publish here the edit that I wrote and then we can discuss it. Is that ok? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atbk ugotit (talk • contribs) 17:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Atbk ugotit, no, I'm afraid it's not OK - not in the way you wrote it. The text you wrote contained an assertion that the subject had acted in a manner that was not compliant with the law, but there was no source supporting that assertion. Please first find and provide a link to a reliable source that explicitly says that was the case, bearing in mind that SYNTH means you cannot use information from two separate sources to arrive at a novel conclusion - you need a source that explicitly says that his actions were unlawful (not, for example, an accusation that they were, or a finding of fact about the institution that he was the head of - you basically need a report saying that a court has said this about him). Best GirthSummit _(blether) 18:27, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Atbk ugotit just to clarify, I'd be happy for you to post the rest of your content here on the talk page to discuss, if you were to leave off the last sentence. Also be aware that, while I've removed that content from the public record, I can still view it - I can answer questions about the content, you don't need to restate the assertions for us to discuss what was wrong with it in general terms. Please confirm thay you've read and understood the policy links I gave you. Best GirthSummit _(blether) 19:55, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well then please can you publish here what you thought was ok, ie without the 'last sentence' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atbk ugotit (talk • contribs)

Hi Atbk ugotit - I'll be happy to do that once you've confirmed that you've read the links to the policies I gave you - BLP and OR, particularly the section on SYNTH - I don't feel comfortable discussing this with you until you confirm that you understand what you can, and can not, say about people here. I'd also ask you to take a look at THREAD, which explains how to carry out threaded discussions, sign your posts, etc. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 08:40, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]