Talk:Mariel boatlift

Simply stop?

Fidel "simply Stops" the boat lift from Mariel?????

I don't remember so, it looks like that they have an agreement with the US to define an orderly emigration system based in annual quotas.

Maybe somebody have better information about why the boatlift was finished......

Also I remove the information that people in Miami, goes to rent boats to transfer his "parents", because with the overcrowding is obviously that "relatives" was not the target, but anybody that comes to Mariel port. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cuye (talk • contribs) 17:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Edit

hi i am just reminding everyone that i will be adding 2 additional sections to the page as par my class assignment one on the class of the refugees and another on the impact on the labour market --MichaelTristanoLombardo (talk) 21:37, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Nice of you to do so. However, the table you inserted as an image (Image:Pqdlink.jpeg) won't do as it is. You can copy its data into a Wikipedia table or, even better, a bar graph you make of the data and then upload. Your image does not follow the rule that

In general, non-free content uploaded under the Exemption Doctrine should be used only when the specific image itself is significant to the article, not merely what it depicts. The image must be not replaceable by a free content alternative that depicts the same thing. Classical geographer (talk) 09:05, 11 December (UTC)

Fact and Fiction

Have I seen too many movies, or were the majority of the refugees from Cuba's prisons?--129.252.176.46 14:07, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

It wasn't the majority, but there were definitely a lot more than one would normally see. Sparkleiya 06:53, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Too much Hollywood?

There seems to be a very large amount of data and citations here that border on defensive. Many of the statistics and citations, as written, seem designed to assuage the negative perception of Mariel as portrayed in movies like Scarface and the perceptions such works have created. Much pain has been taken to refute allegations of increased criminal activity, impact on local economy, and so on. It seems those things, if explained in this article, should include references or citations from the period which generated that original viewpoint. I don't actually see the need for any of that discussion, but if it is to be included, it should, at the least, contain the viewpoints that led to the defensive posture. Better, in my opinion, would be to cite the works such as Scarface that led to the general perception, and expose them as fictional, than to attempt to disprove what are, admittedly, mostly novelized and extreme views on the event. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.187.101.177 (talk) 07:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

What happened to them?

What happened to all of these refugees? How many were deported? Granted asylum? -- Beland 01:41, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Source?

"25,000 had some mental, psychological, and psychiatric problems, but it was generally agreed that this was the result of communist persecution." Source? "Generally accepted" is not acceptable in wikipedia.Mcspiff 23:07, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

NPOV???

I think a disclaimer is in order. How does this conform to a neutral point of view? "Ordinary Cubans also began to realize that a great lie had been perpetuated on them: namely, everything you had been told about the United States was a lie."

Jesus Mezquia

He was one of several thousand criminals Fidel Castro released in the original Mariel Boatlift.He murdered Mia Zapata and was convicted on March 25, 2004, and he was sentenced to 36 years in prison. Her case was featured on Unsolved Mysteries and on 48 Hours. Mezquia was linked to the crime in 2003 when a DNA profile was extracted from a saliva sample left on her body.

Tatoos

Medical examiners of Dade county examined and catalogued many of the tatoos found on the refugees from Cuba during the Mariel Boatlift in an effort to better understand their significance. The designs were associated with specific religious and criminal groups in Cuba.

Source:Center for Biotechnology Information abstract of The American journal of forensic medicine and pathology : official publication of the National Association of Medical Examiners, December 1989 issue.

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According to an article by James Ridgway de Szigethy [1] U.S. Law Enforcement officials began to investigate the significance of body art after the Marielitos began committing heinous crimes in the States. Many of those refugees practiced "Santeria" a religion that combines Catholic beliefs with African Animism. --Beau T. Jarvis 21:05, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Criminals as notable people??

I think it does a great disservice to any marielito (including myself) to name and point out famous criminals and gangsters? Imagine if in the article "Anglo American" we would list Timmothy McVeigh and the Unibomber. I say remove those @$$holes from the list. 76.79.9.129 (talk) 21:55, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Need rate of crime increase - murder/rape/etc. It might have been good for you, but not the average Floridian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.175.30.32 (talk) 16:15, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Fidel Castro=President??? More like Dictator

Cuba does not have an elected president under a democratic procedure. The correct term for Fidel Castro is Dictator. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.75.235.160 (talk) 17:53, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

"President" is his formal title WhisperToMe (talk) 01:07, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps you could point out where Wikipedia policy says that someone can only be identified as "President" if they were elected under a democratic procedure, because I can't find it. Also, "dictator" is not a formal title and should not be capitalized. -- 70.109.45.74 (talk) 18:04, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

US Navy Involvment

USS Saipan was not the only U.S. Navy vessel involved in the migration. USS Boulder (LST-1190) was also assigned to assist the Coast Guard during this evolution. There may have been other Navy units, as well.

Boulder was the fist Navy unit on site and offered assistance to many small craft in extremis. A number of Cuban refugees were taken on board Boulder due to the unseaworthiness of their crafts. These refugees were later delivered to USS Saipan for further transport to U.S. point of entry. One boat was sunk as a hazard to navigation after the crew and passengers were accepted on board Boulder.

Many of the craft observed by Boulder crewmen were so overloaded they were running with only inches of freeboard. At night the running lights of the Cuban flotilla stretched from horizon to horizon.

All crewmembers and embarked Marines on board Boulder during the Mariel Boat Lift were awarded the Humanitarian Service Medal.

EPTASP (talk) 23:22, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

LGBT asylum claim

In his 2016 book How to Survive a Plague (ISBN 978-1-5098-3941-4), David France mentions that the Mariel boatlift "was the largest mass asylum claim by gays, lesbians, and transgender people in history", with "an estimated 20,000 Cubans who had escaped prosecution and prison terms for 'crimes against the normal development of sexual relations, the family, and children'" among the Marielitos. He claims that the federal government "pushed the official estimated number of Mariel gays down to 276, then bent the rules to allow in any 'victims of communism' so long as they didn't make 'an unequivocable [sic], unambiguous declaration that he/she is a homosexual.'" It would be good to see a mention of this in the article. — OwenBlacker (Talk) 01:02, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Adding Immigrants Quantitative Sources for Latinx Immigration History

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