Talk:Marie Wittman

Source translation

Unfortunately, the most complete record of Wittman's early life, a case history in volume 3 of Iconographie photographique de la Salpêtrière : service de M. Charcot, is in French without any available English translations. I have roughly translated (i.e, Google translate with a few corrections) some pages at Talk:Marie Wittman/Iconographie. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:59, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Marie Wittman/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: The Most Comfortable Chair (talk · contribs) 16:06, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello. I will review it in a day or two. One of my textbooks in college had briefly mentioned Jean-Martin Charcot so this is a fascinating topic for me. — The Most Comfortable Chair 16:06, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Lead

• "which resulted in amputations due to radiation poisoning." — Mention what was amputated.
  •  Done
• "Charcot's techniques were controversial; commentators have disagreed whether Wittman suffered from a physical condition like epileptic seizures, from mass hysteria resulting from conditions at La Salpêtrière, or was merely faking the symptoms." — Avoid using "from" thrice, so tweak it a little.
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Biography

Early life

• "She was prone to fits of anger, to which her mother by throwing a bucketful of water on her." → "She was prone to fits of anger, to which her mother responded by throwing water on her." — Unless the sentence is supposed to imply something else. Removing "bucketful" per Talk:Marie Wittman/Iconographie.
  •  Done
• "Wittman stayed with her mother from age 14 to 15" — mention her working in laundry, per Talk:Marie Wittman/Iconographie.
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• "Wittman stayed with her mother from age 14 to 15, during which time she" → "Wittman stayed with her mother from age 14 to 15, during which she".
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• "she had sex with a jeweler named Louis." — The translation on Talk:Marie Wittman/Iconographie says that "she had relations" with the jeweler. Unless it is explicitly stated somewhere that they only had sex, it should be "she had relations with a jeweler named Louis". If you can find a source claiming they had sex, it should be something along the lines of "she had relations with a jeweler named Louis and they engaged in sexual intercourse."
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• "she sought asylum in a convent." → "she sought asylum in a convent on the Rue du Cherche-Midi."
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• "Her attacks were largely at night" — mention that she would see Louis during her attacks, per Talk:Marie Wittman/Iconographie.
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Treatment by Charcot

• "Her attacks began seven days after admission and followed the three stages – epileptoid, generalized clonus, and delirium – that Charcot identified." → "Her attacks began seven days after admission and followed the three stages—epileptoid, generalized clonus, and delirium—that Charcot identified."
  •  Not done Spaced en dashes are acceptable per MOS:DASH
• Her attacks should be described here as they are in "Page 8" of Talk:Marie Wittman/Iconographie. Let me know if you need help with this (I am a medical doctor).
  • I'd absolutely appreciate your help – I don't even play a doctor on TV.
• "Static electricity from a Ramsden machine was used in 1879 to restore feeling to one arm." — Which arm? It was mentioned earlier that she had loss of sensitivity in her left arm.
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• "She was also a subject for faradisation experiments" — Link faradisation since its a technical term. Perhaps to Wiktionary.
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• "The Discovery of the Unconscious" → "The Discovery of the Unconscious (1970)".
  •  Done
• Last two paragraphs here should switch places for a proper timeline. "A 2017 study..." should be the last paragraph.
  •  Done

Later life

• "Wittman returned to the hospital" — Specify which hospital since two hospitals are mentioned in the previous section.
  •  Done
• Mention her cause of death in the prose instead of the footnote.
  • Roldan is the only source to mention that cause of death. Given that it's in the same sentence as a probably-incorrect year of death, I'm hesitant to place it in the prose.

Depictions

• "used as a demonstration" → "used in a demonstration".
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• "a 2020 paper argues that the apparatus visible next to Charcot is in fact a du Bois-Reymond induction device" — remove "in fact".
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• "The novel was well received; with its use of Curie's investigations of radiation as a metaphor for human experience praised." → "The novel was well received; its use of Curie's investigations of radiation as a metaphor for human experience was praised."
  •  Done
• However, a 2007 letter published in The Lancet — link The Lancet.
  •  Done

References

• Reference 5 — is the publication date June 26, 2014 per PubMed?
  •  Done
• Reference 10 — the publication date is December 23, 2006 per The Lancet.
  •  Done
• Reference 11 — needs accessdate.
  •  Done

That will be all for now. The article is well-written and it should pass. Cheers. — The Most Comfortable Chair 07:22, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the detailed review! I believe I've addressed just about everything. Pi.1415926535 (talk)

Final

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   It is a good read and meets the criteria. Thank you for your efforts. — The Most Comfortable Chair 07:37, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:16, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

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Marie Wittman around 1880

• ... that Marie "Blanche" Wittman (pictured), formerly a hysteria patient of Jean-Martin Charcot, contracted radiation-induced cancer while working for Albert Londe? Source: Clinical history of Blanche Wittman and current knowledge of psychogenic non-epileptic seizures
  • ALT1:... that Marie "Blanche" Wittman (pictured) contracted radiation-induced cancer while working for photographer Albert Londe?

• Reviewed: Ideal polyhedron

Created/expanded by Pi.1415926535 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:50, 8 September 2020 (UTC).

• This article is long enough but not new enough, however it does qualify for DYK as a newly promoted GA. The image is in the public domain, the hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:53, 10 September 2020 (UTC)