Talk:Margaret C. Roberts

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A fact from Margaret C. Roberts appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 August 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Margaret C. Roberts was encouraged to study medicine by LDS Church leader Brigham Young to reduce mortality rates during childbirth?

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:28, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Dr. Margaret C. Roberts

... that in an effort to reduce infant mortality rates, Margaret C. Roberts (pictured) taught over 300 nurses about obstetrics and nursing in the late 1800s? Source: "Rising maternal and child death rates prompted Brigham Young to encourage some women living in polygamy who had already borne children to study medicine at the Woman's Medical College in Philadelphia" https://www.uen.org/utah_history_encyclopedia/m/MEDICINE.shtml "There have been three hundred and twenty Relief Society nurse graduates in the eight classes taught by Dr. Roberts, besides the private pupils that she has taught in obstetrics and nursing." https://archive.org/details/reliefsocietymag02reli/page/318/mode/2up
- ALT1: ... that Margaret C. Roberts (pictured) was involved in a court case due to her polygamous marriage to Congressman B. H. Roberts due to speculation of the marriage occurring after the 1890 Manifesto ending polygamy? Source: "The witness said that the general reputation of the status of Roberts and Dr. Maggie C. Shipp Roberts was that they maintained the relation of husband and wife." https://newspapers.com/article/the-wasatch-wave-roberts-court-case-invo/127745582/ (December 15, 1899)
  - ALT2: ... that Margaret C. Roberts (pictured) and other women from the LDS Church were encouraged to study medicine by church leader Brigham Young to reduce mortality rates during childbirth?Source: "Rising maternal and child death rates prompted Brigham Young to encourage some women living in polygamy who had already borne children to study medicine at the Woman's Medical College in Philadelphia" https://www.uen.org/utah_history_encyclopedia/m/MEDICINE.shtml
- Reviewed: QPQ not necessary as this is my first nomination

Moved to mainspace by RGreen (BYU) (talk). Self-nominated at 16:14, 1 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Margaret C. Roberts; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

I will take this review. Dwkaminski (talk) 20:54, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Dwkaminski (talk) 13:24, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

article is new enough - put live on 7/31
long enough - javascript kit shows 3,956 characters excluding infobox and references
well sourced - however, please check the references from the Wasatch Wave, Salt Lake Tribune, Salt Lake Telegram, Grantsville Reflex and Deseret News. I get an error message when I try to view it. I can't view the American National Biography reference but AGF.

@Dwkaminski: Thanks for the review so far! We looked into the references, and we think that we were able to fix them for public viewing. Please let us know if you are able to access them now. RGreen (BYU) (talk) 16:32, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@RGreen (BYU): Thanks for the change to the newspaper references. I am able to access them now. Dwkaminski (talk) 21:02, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

plagiarism free - Earwig's copyvio detector shows 0.0%!
Picture is a little fuzzy but I think is OK

@RGreen (BYU): I've completed my review and listed it as maybe. Take a look at some of the possible alternate hooks and let me know if you think we can make it stronger. Great first submission! Dwkaminski (talk) 13:29, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dwkaminski: Thanks so much for taking the time to review my article! I really like the second alternate hook you suggested and would be completely happy moving forward with that one. Thank you for your help! RGreen (BYU) (talk) 15:10, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Made change to ALT2 and approving. Congratulations! Dwkaminski (talk) 15:50, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]