Talk:Marathon de la Route

January 2019

Some content in this edit is translated from the existing French Wikipedia article at fr:Liege-Rome-Liege; see its history for attribution.--Akrasia25 (talk) 02:43, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Copied some content from Rallying--Akrasia25 (talk) 22:27, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 12 March 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: MOVED. While there wasn't a ton of discussion, the argument for moving is straightforward. Let's be bold. Hadal (talk) 20:42, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

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Liège–Rome–Liège → Marathon de la Route – The article currently covers a series of road regularity rallies held from 1931 to 1971 including the original Liège–Rome–Liège (1931-1960), Liège–Sofia–Liège (1961-1963) and the 82/84/96 Hours of Nürburgring (1965-1971). The inclusion of all these rallies in one article seems appropriate to me, as there is historical and organizational continuity between these events. All were organized by the Royal Motor Union of Liège under a similar series of regularity rally rules. However, I believe a move is in order as the name "Marathon de la Route" is commonly used to refer to all these events, both in relatively recent historical writing (see the book titled Marathon de la Route 1931/1971 by Jean-Paul Delsaux and these articles by R&T and Motorsport Magazine) as well as in period (see this 1960 Motorsport Magazine article about L-R-L titled "LE MARATHON DE LA ROUTE"). Therefore, I believe "Marathon de la Route" satisfies WP:COMMONNAME for all three events, while avoiding the current title's problem of highlighting the Liège–Rome–Liège version of the rally while deemphasizing the later L-S-L and Nürburgring versions of the event. There are also a number of existing "Marathon de la Route" red links in various motorsport/automotive articles, which shows the common use of this name among sources and wiki editors. I think the proposed move will encourage expansion of this article to include more about the later L-S-L and Nürburgring editions of the rally. Prova MO (talk) 18:24, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Weak agree. You make good points but the L-S-L and Nürburgring sections should be added at the same time or the new article will only describe the L-R-L rally. I translated the L-R-L article from the French WP where it has its own page. But I do not disagree with you. There will be redirects so that is ok.--Akrasia25 (talk) 00:05, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I plan to add those sections if the move happens. There is some existing content that can be reorganized into the new sections. I have also gathered a few new sources which I will use to expand the article. Thanks for your translation work. There are not many good English language sources on this topic. Prova MO (talk) 01:23, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Maps

Maps for the routes of the races would be good (aside from Nurburgring, in which case the circuit article can have the map) a general map of the general route would be good, instead of specific road maps -- 67.70.25.80 (talk) 05:27, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Nurburgring years

The Nurburgring runnings had alternate names, they should redirect here --

84 Hours of Nürburgring / Nürburgring 84 Hours // 96 Hours of Nürburgring / Nürburgring 96 Hours // 86 Hours of Nürburgring / Nürburgring 86 Hours // 82 Hours of Nürburgring / Nürburgring 82 Hours /// 84 Hours of Nurburgring / Nurburgring 84 Hours // 96 Hours of Nurburgring / Nurburgring 96 Hours // 86 Hours of Nurburgring / Nurburgring 86 Hours // 82 Hours of Nurburgring / Nurburgring 82 Hours /// 84 Hours of Nuerburgring / Nuerburgring 84 Hours // 96 Hours of Nuerburgring / Nuerburgring 96 Hours // 86 Hours of Nuerburgring / Nuerburgring 86 Hours // 82 Hours of Nuerburgring / Nuerburgring 82 Hours

-- 67.70.25.80 (talk) 23:07, 15 August 2023 (UTC)