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Page name

This new page is renamed from a previous Wikipedia page Mannes College of Music to reflect the current official name of the institution, which is affiliated with The New School. I have placed a redirect command on the old page.Objectivesea 01:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Notable faculty

I'm in the process of creating this list. Don't delete it - I'll be adding more. kosboot (talk) 00:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was at Mannes in 1977/78, during a time of tremendous student and faculty upheaval. Not only are some of my teachers missing from this list (David Tcimpidis, then dean of the school, for one, from whom I studied electronic music; and Frederick Werle, dean emeritus by then, whose class on Franz Liszt is memorable to this day), but Risë Stevens was president of Mannes College when I was there. In fact, Miss Stevens' Wikipedia page doesn't even mention this. I guess I should dig out some of my old papers and propose some updates, here. LGRosenthal (talk) 19:22, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

David Tcimpidis doesn't have a Wikipedia page, and WP discourages making lists without pages to link to. So far as I know (and I was in attendance at that time), Stevens was an administrator, not a faculty member. - kosboot (talk) 19:53, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 21 July 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move already done. It looks like this was an uncontroversial change that was already carried out by Diannaa here: [1]}} — Amakuru (talk) 10:47, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mannes College The New School for Music → Mannes School of Music – The organization has officially changed its name to "Mannes School of Music." However, that name is currently a redirect so I can't move "Mannes College The New School for Music" page & its history to that redirect page. kosboot (talk) 10:25, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to me that the requested move has been executed. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:15, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not exactly; I tried moving it but couldn't because the page was already existing as a redirect. I tried removing the redirect but it still told me I couldn't move the page. I tried copying the page (and its talk page), forgetting that copy/past excludes the history, so the bot told me I can't do that, and reverted things to the way they were before I tried to move things. Now that I think of it, I could move the redirect page to some nonsense name (removing the redirect), then move this page to the wanted page, and let the patrol people delete the nonsense page. Or I could just wait until an admit sees & understands things, and executes it. - kosboot (talk) 12:41, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Boosterism

Hi @SPECIFICO, please take a look at the Wiki pages on boosterism and then change your edits accordingly. There is a lot of advertising language in your edits, this is inappropriate for an encyclopedia. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 16:56, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My intention was to rewrite the content without the promotional tone. What parts of the current version do you find prolemmatic? SPECIFICO talk 17:21, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you asked. Here are some problematic passages. --Melchior2006 (talk) 19:09, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"The students in any of the three schools of the The New School College of Performing Arts three schools can take courses in Drama, Jazz, and Music." --- this is from a course catalogue; what is the value for an encyclopedia? It's advertising.
"Salzer's leading student, Carl Schachter and Schacter's own students continued and strengthened the department in this tradition." -- no reference to prove that Schachter was indeed a "leading student". And who says he strengthened the dept?
"he school has further enhanced its commitment to contemporary music..." Says who? Sounds a lot like advertising.
"Charles Kaufman – history, theory, President" --- 1. why revert P back to upper case? 2. why is this relevant here? The idea is to refer to CK's wiki article, where the presidency is covered. As it stands, looks a lot like advertising, using Wikipedia as a platform to sell the school.

By the way: Did you read the article on boosterism that I linked for you? --Melchior2006 (talk) 19:09, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I did not reinstate any of what you removed as unduly promotional, but the content above is descriptive, ABOUTSELF, and consistent with our articles on many schools and similar institutions. My mistake not catching the P in president, feel free to reinstate small p.

I'd have no problem removing "leading" and just saying that Carl Schacter was Schenker's "student" if you feel prefer that. I don't find it unduly promotional to describe the broadening of curriculum that apparently has occurred with the integration into the New School complex. SPECIFICO talk 20:53, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]