Talk:Manley Whitcomb

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This is a well written article, ~~but the sourcing doesn’t demonstrate he meets WP:GNG or WP:PROF or WP:NMUSIC.~~ Needs third-party sources that deal with the subject in-depth. Grey Wanderer (talk) 18:53, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Orchestra conductor

It would be quite atypical for a director of bands/marching bands to become known as a symphony orchestra conductor. Wondering if the author is aware of the difference between a symphony orchestra, composed mostly of string instruments versus a collegiate wind band, comprised of wind instruments (with a little percussion on the side). Grey Wanderer (talk) 19:56, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I do not, so that would be a helpful edit to the article. Basically I saw his photo (which says he's conducting a symphony at FSU which may have been a misnomer) in the course of other work I was doing and noticed he was noted in six other articles on Wikipedia and thought he should have his own article. He implemented some large-ish things that made the FSU band what they are today, has won a few awards, and had a notable career with some legacy naming stuff. It's possible that's a little too FSU-centric, I'll find some other sources and improve. Jessamyn (talk) 23:29, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, it may mean he was conducting a symphony, the type of composition vs a symphony orchestra which refers to the ensemble. Either way I think unless a source can be found that calls him a notable symphony conductor I would assume he is best described as “band director” or “director of bands”. I can help out with figuring this out. Clare Grundman crediting him with being an influence is impressive, if you can find that in an academic or artistic source unaffiliated with FSU or Ohio that deals in depth with Manley that would be enough for me to view him as notable. The article as it reads now doesn’t distinguish him from a regular marching band conductor at a college, just doing his job; albeit at two pretty big music schools/band programs. Grey Wanderer (talk) 00:43, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just saw your updates, they’re looking great. Grey Wanderer (talk) 00:46, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I was going to write the stub first and fill it in later, so I've got a few things in there and will revisit tomorrow and look into the Grundman thing (FSU does tend to... go on about things). Appreciate the second set of eyes. Jessamyn (talk) 01:02, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]