Talk:Mandi, Himachal Pradesh

Headings and capitalisation

I am reverting these edits because they violate WP:HEAD and WP:ALLCAPS:

• Section headings created using the ==Section heading== and ===Subheading=== formatting generate a table of contents that help a reader navigate through an article.
• Names should not be typed all in capital letters. WP:ALLCAPS: "Avoid writing with all capitals. Reduce them to one of the other title cases." Ground Zero | t 12:33, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I have done edits according to rules give in this page How to Write History Section, here it has been clearly explained that you should not at all use subheading in History Section. Anshulkumardhiman (talk) 04:34, 6 December 2011 (UTC)Anshulkumardhiman

Thank you for bringing that guide to my attention. I was not aware of it. You seem to have read that guide only selectively. It also says: "The history section should be around four to five mid-sized paragraphs. If it exceeds six paragraphs move the detail to a separate article titled "History of the city", and provide a summary of 4-5 paragraphs here highlighting key points in the city's development." If the section is going ignore the Wikiproject Indian Cities by being longer than 4-6 paragraphs, then it will also have to ignore the prohibition against sub-headings. I would suggest following the Wikiproject guidance on both matters, i.e., move a lot of the text to a separate article, and remove the subheadings. Regards, Ground Zero | t 14:24, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

As a first step, I have moved the long list of Rajas to a branch article. Ground Zero | t 15:59, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

More formatting

• Wikipedia is not a travel guide - that is what Wikitravel is for.
• I have removed repeated links and links to plain English words per WP:OVERLINK. Ground Zero | t 19:49, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

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V1.0 assessment

Status	Template	Meaning of Status
Top	{{Top-Class}}	All cities with a population greater than 4 million
High	{{High-Class}}	All state capitals, auxilary capitals, cities with a population > 1 million
Mid	{{Mid-Class}}	Cities with a population > 100,000
Low	{{Low-Class}}	Locations with a population < 100,000
None	None	This article is of unknown importance to this project. It remains to be analyzed.

Source: Wikipedia Project Indian Cities Anshulkumardhiman (talk) 06:17, 29 December 2011 (UTC)Anshulkumardhiman

Images not aligned properly

Some of the images are put in a section where it is of no relevance and the formatting of images is also not proper. They are aligned to left leaving blank spaces. Priybrat (talk) 16:35, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Demographics section of the page is a clutter of nonsense

What the hell has happened to the editors of this page ? First check the references and then make edits. The population of city has been mentioned to be 192,370. Even Shimla, the largest city of Himachal (pop. 169,578) is not having this much population. Mandi town has population of only 26,422. That population doesn't make it even a city. It is a town. It is the Mandi Sub district or Mandi Tehsil which has pop. 192,000(2001) and 216,000(2011). There is a difference b/w sub district/sub division/tehsil and a city/town/village. I corrected the figures with reliable sources. Totally disappointed with this page. A town which is not even having pop. of 50,000 has been labelled as a city of pop. of about 200,000. Nonsensical.Vibhss (talk) 15:02, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Vibhss! I totally agree with you that this article badly needs editing and tidying up. I will try to find time to do some of this over the next few weeks - but I am pretty busy. However, your remarks on what constitute a "city" need to be clarified. You may be quite right that for a town to be considered a "city" in India may need larger population than one finds in Mandi. I don't know what the requirements are. Different countries have different population and governance requirements - in Canada and Australia settlements with even less than 10,000 people are often referred to as "cities". Then comes the problem of how many people in the area are considered to be living within the city - where the city boundaries end. This is often very unclear and why one sees very different population figures given for cities. For example, this is the reason why there are different claims for arguments about which is the biggest city in the world. (Is it Tokyo or Cairo or Mexico City or Shanghai? It depends how it is measured). See: World's largest cities. I don't know what the accepted standard guidelines are in India. Can you, or any other editor, help here, please? Many thanks, cheers, John Hill (talk) 19:39, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

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