Talk:Man on a Ledge

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Alleged "source" for the screenplay

The basic plot of this film appears to be a reworking of the 1951 film Fourteen Hours, about a man contemplating suicide who remains on a hotel ledge for 14 hours until talked out of it by a police officer. This film in turn appears to have been inspired by an actual incident in NYC in 1938 when a man remained a a New York hotel ledge for 15 hours before finally jumping despite the efforts of a police officer to dissuade him. The man was played by Richard Basehart, the officer by Paul Douglas. The film and both actors were highly praised by critics. The source of this information is the Wikipedia article on the movie found at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Hours. Several people have tried adding a claim sourced only by IMDb that the screenwriter for Man on a Ledge based his work on the 2011 film The Ledge. Aside from the fact that Wikipedia does not accept IMDb as a reliable source for information like this, the claim is provable untrue. An article in The Hollywood Reporter says that "Fenjves sold Man on a Ledge almost 10 years ago to MGM" and describes his effort to get the film made over the last 10 years. As such, it can't be based on a film made only last year. I note this information here because I would not be surprised if some other editors might come along and try to re-add this false claim.[1] 99.192.53.39 (talk) 14:44, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Assumptions

Of course, all screenplays must make certain assumptions of a character's behavior, or the story doesnt work. In this movie, are we to assume that the Ed Harris character actually thinks the thieves will break into the second safe? Is this why the Ed Harris character puts the diamond in his pocket? A $40 million diamond in his pocket, when he could have kept it in the second safe, because Nick's brother did not even know about the second safe. The thieves have no idea how many security guards are in the building, and yet they make a bold move to go to the man's office and take the diamond from his pockets. It's a huge assumption to think the diamond is in his pocket; Its a huge assumption to not be concerned that armed security guards will come into the office. ...When Nick finally reclaims his innocence in the street, Its a huge assumption to NOT think that a multi-millionaire can't buy another large diamond, and get it cut identical to the diamond that was allegedly stolen the "first time." Its also a huge assumption that people will not think that Nick retrieved the diamond from a hiding place, after he escaped from custody. Like OJ pretended the glove didnt fit, Nick could have pretended to be pulling the diamond from the pocket of the Ed Harris character. ...But despite the huge assumptions in the movie, the movie redeems itself up on the ledge. We need Nick to finally tell Lydia about the whole scheme. Because its ludicrous to assume he could stay on that ledge for so long, without confiding to somebody about the scheme. 206.192.35.125 (talk) 16:37, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Character development of the villians

It might have been a better movie if it ran longer, with a first act devoted to flashback scenes of the dirty cops when they planned their dirty deeds. What we're given is a plot twist of merely finding out that the Titus Welliver character is one of the dirty cops that set-up Nick. This is highly ineffectual. The cliche plot-device of the backstabber is effectual only when you get to know the character, and maybe even like the character. We dont know the Titus Welliver character. Welliver is good actor, who is highly under-used in this movie. Movie writing is best, when good guys and villians can both emote; When good and bad guys alike both have something on the line, and there's confrontation and sacrifice on both sides. Perhaps the one thing that makes sense is Nick's calm state. He's already been in Prison for a few years, and he's already become numb to the situation. Desperate but numb at the same time. 206.192.35.125 (talk) 16:37, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The inflatable mattress

One of the emergency workers in the street says "Good luck hitting this." Since when are those inflatable mattresses so small? Lethal Weapon had a scene, where a guy is on a ledge, and Rigss handcuffs himself to the guy and takes a leap off the ledge. The inflatable mattress on the ground in that "Lethal Weapon" scene was huge! 206.192.35.125 (talk) 17:50, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fake diamond?

I was just watching this on TV. Where is it suggested that Nick gave Englander a fake diamond? When Joey takes the diamond from Englander, he leaves it with Frank, who then puts it in the pocket of his valet jacket. He then gives that jacket to Nick while he's being chased. So that means Nick had the real diamond on him when he was confronted by Englander on the roof. Jaybling (talk) 15:20, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Steelbook edition and soundtrack CD's scarce release, references needed

A steelbook of the film was released and as far as I can tell from looking around the internet, it was only released in dutch countries (hence the complete absence of any non-dutch steelbooks). Could somebody dig up a source or reference so that we can add information about the steelbook to the page? Same goes for the soundtrack too, but with Australia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Englander (talk • contribs) 20:12, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Update: 18/10/2018

We have steelbook It's german go figure — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Englander (talk • contribs) 08:49, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]