Talk:Malcolm II of Scotland

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July 3, 2006	Good article nominee	Listed
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December 6, 2023	Good article reassessment	Delisted
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Blar Nam Feinne

Just wondering if anyone can comment on this RCAHMS report on Blar Nam Feinne just west of Inverness (grid reference NH595433, which reports a local tradition of a battle there between "King Malcolm" and Thorfinn in the early 11th century. Reports seem to vary between Malcolm winning to dying. :-))) Le Deluge (talk) 17:54, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He could have won and died, too. Lots of Malcolms floating around ye Isle of ye Scota. Best to say which one. Billyshiverstick (talk) 01:13, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Silly naming convention

In English, Malcolm is the name which is almost always used to refer to this monarch. While foreign versions of the name can and should be mentioned for informational purposes, his common English name should be used in English wikipedia since it is much more readable. Rwflammang (talk) 19:28, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed - use common English name on English wikipedia. Greenshed (talk) 01:25, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Descendants

This 'On this day' entry: 'After Malcolm II of Scotland died at Glamis, Duncan, the son of his second daughter, instead of Macbeth, the son of his eldest daughter, inherited the throne to become the King of Scots' seems to conflict with this part of the article : 'It is possible that a third daughter of Máel Coluim married Findláech mac Ruaidrí and that Mac Bethad was thus his grandson, but this rests on relatively weak evidence.' Either it was his second or his third daughter who might have been the mother of the person who would be called by the Anglicized name MacBeth. Can anyone bring a little more clarity to this?

206.47.31.81 (talk) 17:40, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. The on this day thing popped up again, but I can't find any source for the daughter 1 and 2 claims in Malcolm's article. VEry weird. And the article doesn't know which Constantine it claims might be his mother's ancestor. Billyshiverstick (talk) 01:11, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Reassessment

Malcolm II of Scotland

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Result: Significant uncited material remains. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:15, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lots of unreferenced paragraphs and sentences. Z1720 (talk) 02:58, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720, can you point out some? The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1^{(The Garage)} 23:06, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@The Corvette ZR1: In general, there should be a citation at the end of every paragraph, minimum (except the lede and other exceptions). I have placed citation needed tags in the article to indicate where this is. Z1720 (talk) 15:07, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for responding, will take a look. The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1^{(The Garage)} 15:08, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Ancestry

Hello, I have an idea to add his ancestry by using these sources:

Ancestors of Malcolm II of Scotland (c. 954–1034)^[1]^[2]^[3]

64. Alpin^[1]^[2]^[3]

32. Kenneth I of Scotland^[1]^[2]^[3]

16. Constantine I of Scotland^[1]^[2]^[3]

8. Donald II of Scotland^[1]^[2]^[3]

4. Malcolm I of Scotland^[1]^[2]^[3]

2. Kenneth II of Scotland^[1]^[2]^[3]

1. Malcolm II of Scotland^[1]^[2]^[3]

3. N

Sources:

Bernard Burke, Ashworth P. Burke. A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage. 1934
Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall. Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700: Lineages from Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Other Historical Individuals 2008. ISBN 0806317523, ISBN 9780806317526

Additional source:

Foundation of medieval genealogy: Scotland, kings https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm

References

^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, p. 47
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 161
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h Foundation of medieval genealogy: Scotland, kings

Dmitry Azikov (talk) 01:23, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[<1-1] ^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, p. 47

[<2-2] ^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 161

[<3-3] ^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h Foundation of medieval genealogy: Scotland, kings

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