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To start with Kenneth MacAlpin (sic) is a rather odd decision. Starting with Drest son of Erp as the {{Pictish and Scottish Monarchs}} template does seemed like a good idea at the time, but perhaps it would have been better to have started with Bridei son of Maelchon. For the purposes of a Wikiproject, however, Domnall son of Constantín and Constantín son of Áed would make more sense. Then you won't have articles on Scottish royalty that start by saying that X was king of the Picts, really, which Encarta does too. Angus McLellan (Talk) 18:21, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note that this Project is called WikiProject Scottish Royalty. We deal only with monarchs and royalty who were roylaty of Scotland (or whatever it was the Scotland was being called at that time e.g. Alba...). Kenneth MacAlpin is traditionally considered the first monarch of Scotland and Drest X the last of the Picts. Therefore to avoid disputes Kenneth MacAlpin is going to be the first monarch on the WikiProject. To be frank there isn;t enough info about Pictish moanrchs to jutify them being part of the project. Possibly once more members have joined a pictish royalty task force could be set up but we need to go one step at a time. The Quill (talk) 20:38, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't exactly a helpful project. Wikipedia:WikiProject Medieval Scotland covers most of these already. Generally medieval Scottish monarchs are much more usefully considered as medieval rulers than as Scottish or British monarchs, since the latter way of looking at them tends to encourage the introduction of inaccuracies and anachronisms (E.G. the dreaded House of Dunkeld nonsense).

Re Quill, "Scotland" is just the English word for "Alba" (the Gaelic word for Pictland) used after the 9th century; Alba and Scotland are supposed to mean the same thing in different languages, not be mutually exclusive (likewise no distinction between Germany and Deutchland or Wales and Cymru). Pictish monarchs after the beginning of the *Iona Chronicle are generally just as well documented as "Scottish" monarchs before David I; that Cinaed mac Ailpin (Kenneth MacAlpin) was at the time of his life king of the Picts is beyond doubt ("King of the Scots" as a title can't be securly said to have existed until the 11th century), and is only "first king of Scots" by a fictitious tradition no more valid that the idea that Locrinus was the first kings of England. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 23:38, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is a helpful project as it doesn't just cover Medieval monarchs of Scotland but all monarchs of Scotland. Additioanlly it covers royalty. I know that Alba and Scotland mean that same thing however the Kingdom if referred as Alba at certain points and Scotland at others. Traditionally Kenneth MacAlpin is considered the first monarch of Scotland and so we are using MacAlpin as the first monarch because it seems that best place to start as there will never be a consensus on exactly who the first monarch is. Also Locrinus is legendary and Kenneth MacAlpin isn't.The Quill (talk) 09:58, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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