Talk:Mahurangi Harbour

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Did you know... that after being extensively hunted in the 19th century, southern right whales can again sometimes be seen in Mahurangi Harbour?

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Upper extent of the harbour, vs the river

Nice map but is the harbour really considered to reach as far up as Warkworth? The topo maps say, no, that's the Mahurangi River. The topo map doesn't indicate the exact river/harbour border, but I suspect it is Hamiltons Landing. Nurg (talk) 02:40, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Going by satellite view I'd agree - that's definitely far too high up into the river. I also have issues with the harbour mouth: the harbour should begin at Otarawao Bay/Cudlip Point to the south. I'm not a regular editor of Open Street Map, otherwise I'd attempt to fix this. --Prosperosity (talk) 06:07, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Nurg: So it seems that east of Wilson Road is the agreed point in council reports/scientific reports ([1][2][3 (page 13)]), but this isn't what's on LINZ, which marks the end of the river as the Elizabeth Street bridge in Warkworth (but LINZ topographical map also lists as far south as Hamilton Road as the river). I've attempted to messily fix this on open street map - hopefully someone can review my edit and fix it up. --Prosperosity (talk) 23:27, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 02:04, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Mahurangi Harbor

Source: "The southern right whale (SRW) is the baleen whale most closely associated with New Zealand because, in the past, they used to come inshore to sheltered harbours on the mainland to mate and calve (Carroll et al 2011). However extensive hunting in the 19th century depleted their numbers and shrank their range. Today the right whale population appears to be recovering and now are rarely but increasingly being sighted around the mainland. These areas include: East Coast, Hawkes Bay, Wanganui/Wellington, Mahurangi Harbour/Auckland, Otago, Kaikoura/Canterbury, Northland and Nelson (Patenaude 2003)." - source
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Joseph-Alexandre Baile

Created by Prosperosity (talk). Nominated by SL93 (talk) at 20:15, 4 September 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - one uncited paragraph
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: We need a citation still for the paragraph that ends with [...] entracne to the harbour. Everything else is fine. –LordPickleII (talk) 14:08, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I added the missing source. SL93 (talk) 16:04, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

LordPeterII SL93 (talk) 16:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Passes. –LordPickleII (talk) 16:19, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@SL93: could you tell me what comes across as odd or hooky about this hook? I'm afraid I might be missing the point somewhere. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 17:00, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

SL93 (talk) 18:39, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

theleekycauldron SL93 (talk) 21:32, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

SL93 (talk) 23:56, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@SL93: hmm, maybe we can make it a little tighter?

I'd say these are better :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 06:40, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

theleekycauldron

ALT1b: ... that Mahurangi Harbour is one of the few places in New Zealand where a southern right whale can be found resting or calving?

I'm just changing it a bit because the source refers to one country. SL93 (talk) 23:06, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

theleekycauldron What do you think? SL93 (talk) 20:36, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ah, yeah, my mistake – I think that works :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 22:02, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A review of ALT1b is needed. SL93 (talk) 01:30, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Approve ALT1b. It's basically how I understood the original hook; but you are right, it didn't actually read that hooky then. Struck the others. –LordPeterII (talk) 09:23, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can this be promoted already? It doesn't need the image. SL93 (talk) 01:11, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I misread the source. Withdrawing. SL93 (talk) 16:03, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 ... that after being extensively hunted in the 19th century, southern right whales have returned and can again sometimes be seen in Mahurangi Harbour (pictured)?
Nominator said at DYK talk they’d be happy if someone else took this on. This is what it says in the source, I’ve added this sentence to the article and used it for a hook verbatim. Schwede 66 16:55, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hook is in the article, sourced, and pleasing to read. CMD (talk) 19:06, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Schwede66, Chipmunkdavis, and SL93: I'm not sure the hook checks out as-is; the source doesn't say that the whale left the harbour, although it does imply that sightings stopped. I'm not sure those are truly the same? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 19:24, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2a ... that after being extensively hunted in the 19th century, southern right whales can again sometimes be seen in Mahurangi Harbour (pictured)?
- How about ALT2a? Would that do, theleekycauldron? Schwede 66 00:54, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'll take it :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 02:04, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]