Talk:Magister militum

Third declension noun

'Magister' is not a third declension noun. It is a second declension noun like 'ager' and it is declined in the same way. See discussion of case-endings and Perseus where the plural 'magistri' is quoted in a number of original texts. Alan 30 June 2005 04:50 (UTC)

Odoacer

The Magister Militum was usually the power behind the throne and the office was held by Stilicho, Ricimer, Odoacer and others.

Was Odoacer a Magister Militum ? It doesn't sound like that from the articles. Tintin (talk) 15:18, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

He was. The only 2 noteworthy de faco rulers are Ricimer and Aetius though. Stilicho didn't do much and Odoacer became king of his Italian state in 476 if I'm correct. MMFA (talk) 13:17, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Comes et Magister Militium

Aetius was awarded the Title "Comes et Magister Militium" so it should be changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MMFA (talk • contribs) 19:16, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Why does the article state that the institution was created by Constantinus?

AFAIK, only magistri peditum, magistri equitum, and magistri armorum are attested before Theodosius, and the system of magistri peditum and magistri equitum lasted somewhat longer in the west. 96.231.17.131 (talk) 21:24, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

That is both true and not true - after about 420 the "Magister Equitum" and "Magister Peditum" became the office of "Comes et Magister Utriusque Militae", having a senior and junior command (Peditum became the senior command). There was no longer a Master of Foot and Master of Cavalry, just a Master of the Soldiers and a junior Master of the Soldiers. The conflict between Aetius, Constantius Felix, and Bonifacius shows how important control of these commands was in the empire (All of them held the Senior Post for some time, before the latter 2 died, Aetius held the Junior Command before he fought Bonifacius). MMFA (talk) 18:38, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

That Constantine created the magistri is stated by both John Lydus, De Magistratibus reipublicae Romanae 2.10; 3.40, and by Zosimus, Historia Nova 2.55.

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